GoJet & TSA
#52
Every single regional airline out there is flying a/c at wages, work rules, and benefits FAR BELOW the mainline standard (even after mainline concessions). I once flew a F-100 as a FO for 3 times as much as any CRJ900 FO in the US today. FOs toping out at 35 maybe 40 per hour is far less than FOs of the 727s 737s DC9s and F100s that you have replaced. TSA GOJET AE CHQ MESA COMAIR ASA SKYWEST, I don't care who you are, you all have lead to the destruction of the life of the airline pilot. Period!
So all the name-calling is just to make you feel better for the crapy service you provide, and below poverty wages you work for. It's no more than "BIG EGOs, and SMALL PEE-PEEs!" GoJet did not lead to this destruction (nor did it help) any more then MESA or TSA or any other dirt bag regional airline out there.
And you guys are knights in shinning amour claiming "100's" of your friends got furloughed at TSA b/c of GoJet (ps Though FEW furloughs occurred for less than 2 months (no pilots of which returned when recalled) and were b/c TSA lost USAIR flying and TSA mgt was to stupid to realize that need not furlough) where were you when 10,000+ mainline pilots got the axe? Probably running over your buddies to get in a shinny new RJ... Or just going though puberty.
So I don't see how any RJ driver can say any other RJ driver lowering the bar. Unless he admits that he himself is also lowering the bar!!
The way oil is going and the way airlines are moving away from 50 seat rjs. My guess is you probably will not have to worry about MESA, or GoJet by 2010. If more fifty seat flying gets dump by TSA they will go BK. GoJet probably will not be able to support its self with 15 RJs it will be gone too. MESA we all know the story there. Once DELTA gets to dump them they are toast.
OK I have said my part... Enjoy the show of the next 50+ pages of JUNIOR HIGH mud slinging....
So all the name-calling is just to make you feel better for the crapy service you provide, and below poverty wages you work for. It's no more than "BIG EGOs, and SMALL PEE-PEEs!" GoJet did not lead to this destruction (nor did it help) any more then MESA or TSA or any other dirt bag regional airline out there.
And you guys are knights in shinning amour claiming "100's" of your friends got furloughed at TSA b/c of GoJet (ps Though FEW furloughs occurred for less than 2 months (no pilots of which returned when recalled) and were b/c TSA lost USAIR flying and TSA mgt was to stupid to realize that need not furlough) where were you when 10,000+ mainline pilots got the axe? Probably running over your buddies to get in a shinny new RJ... Or just going though puberty.
So I don't see how any RJ driver can say any other RJ driver lowering the bar. Unless he admits that he himself is also lowering the bar!!
The way oil is going and the way airlines are moving away from 50 seat rjs. My guess is you probably will not have to worry about MESA, or GoJet by 2010. If more fifty seat flying gets dump by TSA they will go BK. GoJet probably will not be able to support its self with 15 RJs it will be gone too. MESA we all know the story there. Once DELTA gets to dump them they are toast.
OK I have said my part... Enjoy the show of the next 50+ pages of JUNIOR HIGH mud slinging....
Would you guys be happier if we all just instructed until our 40's and then joined "THE ELITE OF THE MAINLINE AIRLINE PILOTS!"??? Just thought I would ask so I can start applying.
And if anyone tries to tell me that if they were in my spot 20+ years ago, that they would not work for a regional airline based on their "morals of the industry". You would be doing the same thing me and guys like me are doing now, and you know it.
Rant over.
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Satan's Camaro
Posts: 397
I must have forgotten that you and BURflyer popped right outta your momma and into that bright and shiny mainline jet. I gotta apologize, my memory was a little fuzzy.
Would you guys be happier if we all just instructed until our 40's and then joined "THE ELITE OF THE MAINLINE AIRLINE PILOTS!"??? Just thought I would ask so I can start applying.
And if anyone tries to tell me that if they were in my spot 20+ years ago, that they would not work for a regional airline based on their "morals of the industry". You would be doing the same thing me and guys like me are doing now, and you know it.
Rant over.
Would you guys be happier if we all just instructed until our 40's and then joined "THE ELITE OF THE MAINLINE AIRLINE PILOTS!"??? Just thought I would ask so I can start applying.
And if anyone tries to tell me that if they were in my spot 20+ years ago, that they would not work for a regional airline based on their "morals of the industry". You would be doing the same thing me and guys like me are doing now, and you know it.
Rant over.
#54
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
I must have forgotten that you and BURflyer popped right outta your momma and into that bright and shiny mainline jet. I gotta apologize, my memory was a little fuzzy.
Would you guys be happier if we all just instructed until our 40's and then joined "THE ELITE OF THE MAINLINE AIRLINE PILOTS!"??? Just thought I would ask so I can start applying.
And if anyone tries to tell me that if they were in my spot 20+ years ago, that they would not work for a regional airline based on their "morals of the industry". You would be doing the same thing me and guys like me are doing now, and you know it.
Rant over.
Would you guys be happier if we all just instructed until our 40's and then joined "THE ELITE OF THE MAINLINE AIRLINE PILOTS!"??? Just thought I would ask so I can start applying.
And if anyone tries to tell me that if they were in my spot 20+ years ago, that they would not work for a regional airline based on their "morals of the industry". You would be doing the same thing me and guys like me are doing now, and you know it.
Rant over.
#59
I'm sorry, but it sounded like you said that I fly for a scab airline? If youwould kindly look at my profile, you will clearly see that I fly the ERJ, not the CRJ. I resent anyone who says that I work for a scab airline. You can be bitter towards the industry and your inept management all that you want, I would support that. Talking down to regional pilots who are trying to make a living flying airplanes just proves what a jack a** you really are. Do you blame the weather guy if a tornado hits your house? What is going to happen in this industryis going to happen. We can't change jack ******* if all we do is blame each other as pilots for the current mess we are in. Even if I didn't take a job at TSA, someone else would have. Point the finger elsewhere and quit blaming regional pilots for your plight!
the thing I can't figure out is that Mason32 claims up and down he doesn't fly for a regional, but if you look at his other posts he flys for Eagle.....which is why I take everything he says with a grain of salt.
#60
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 781
We'd be happier if you didn't take the first job at some scab airline just beacusse they were willing to pay you to fly a pretty jet. If more of those scab airlines go out of business, the remaining good ones will be able to grow, instead of outsourcing the flying to people willing to work for peanuts.
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