good info.....btw, is current hiring based more on FAR part 117, Captain attrition or other? tx

Truthfully it depends who you ask.

Certainly 117 and attrition play an important role in our need to hire, however there are rumors floating around of additional growth ( in truth, they have been floating around for a year or so).

appreciate the hiring info.

APC lists "Most junior captain (non-direct entry) hired: Dec 2012 (STL)", also 510 total/active pilots

so the most recent captain upgrade was based on a 250+ pilot attrition/growth/117 during past 11 months....or am I missing something? thanks!

So with GoJet being one of the regionals with reasonable upgrade times, is this still the mismanaged airline it once was? Are the pilots happier bunch than the ones at Republic?

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No more mismanaged than any other regional. Reserve is probably the worst of them all so reserve guys are not happy. At all..... If you have a line life at G7 is not so bad.

What's your average time on reserve? Did you guys say that FSI does your training and checkrides?

Seven,
Check out the end of page 52 and most of page 53 of this thread.
I don't think much has changed since then......

Will do thx.

One thing that worries me is I keep reading that GoJet pilots don't have a future with majors/legacy airlines in the future when trying to move up. Anyone want to shed some light on this? Is there any truth in this? I am not looking for smart comments as I do see GoJet getting a lot of hatred among pilots.

I also read that GoJet pilots struggle with jumpseating with other airlines? What is that about?

How are the benefits with GoJet? Are they relatively the same as other regionals?

The company puts out a monthly newsletter that includes how many pilots have resigned and where they were going, if they offered. It seems like about 6-8 people are leaving per month (We only have 446 guys on the seniority list at the moment). Most have gone to United, USAir, JetBlue, and Spirit over the last few months. People don't seem to be having any problems at all getting hired elsewhere.

The benefits are pretty standard. United Health Care, Delta Dental, and flight benefits with United and Delta. The 401k match is not great.

Overall, i wouldn't worry to much about the stigma that G7 pilots won't have a career at the majors.

Currently, I have numerous friends at G7, mostly out of circumstance, they were furloughed from 2 or 3 different regionals and the only company that was still hiring was G7, end result was that's where they ended up. Take note, none of those friends started with G7 as their first choice regional, or even their second choice, but when things got really rough, they were willing to take the plunge.

I'm no longer in the biz, but still in an aviation related field that employees plenty of former pilots, and I've hired several G7 pilots in the last 12 months. There have been instances where G7 pilots faced some scrutiny, there was a JetBlue pilot who (at a hiring event) screamed, yelled, and cursed out a G7 pilot who was looking for a job...that particular JetBlue pilot was released from service pretty quick. Don't know if the G7 guy was hired, but i'm almost certain that most G7 pilots have the ability to get on with the majors, as most majors don't know, and don't care about the drama going on in the kindergarten classroom known as the regional airline biz.

Is there a new hire class going on for nov ? How many ?

Speaks the truth.

How long has the RDU base been there? What's the likelihood of it going away?

Its been open about two years (at least before I got here). Its an outstation base, so its always a question. That said, there are no current rumors of it closing.

Answer 1 - Two years.

Answer 2 -
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I couldn't agree with boomer more.... Its certainly not just limited to G7. Every airline that is a fee for departure (regional airline) risks having its entire operation moved, modified or closed down.

Do G7 pilots have unlimited jumpseating priviledges or just with certain carriers?

I imagine it's unlimited with whomever they have reciprocal agreements. Usually in the 121 world those lists are pretty long.

Except TSA. They always seem to be low on 02 or weight restricted.

Willing to bet that you have never denied a jumpseat tough guy. TSA jumpseat ride just the other day. They were pleasant.

I've been on the TSA Jumpseat countless times. As they've also been on ours. Never a single problem.

Your disdain is hilarious.

What airlines can you guys (and spouses, etc) fly standby on?

Good for you if you've found someone who will take you. It's the captain's discretion. (As it should be). But I've seen g7 guys told they're not welcome on plenty of airlines.

Roflmao! Come on man, you're trying too hard, we've gone through this before. Your little childish crusade is humorous.

You're entertaining tho, I'll give you that!

Bernoulli loves the emb jumpseat in the stowed position.

Lol sureeeee


I don't play that stupid game ! Really nothing to be proud of ?

God grow up ! Acting all bad ass when u fly a freaking RJ! Who cares! Kindergarten kids act more mature .

Are you talking about your paychecks?

I got an interview coming up G7 and would like to prepare for it... Anyone I can PM for some pointers?

Practice breathing?

Tbucket, you seem like a reasonably intelligent person.

While you are within your rights to deny a G7 guy the Jumpseat, there are several issues that arise if you do.

1) most OH to G7 people know your DO and IAD chief better than you do. A quick call to either and expect to hear something from them. Oh, and neither one of them were born yesterday. Pushing and holding the O2 test for 5 minutes is fairly predictable.

2). You never really seem to address this, but there are a significant amount of TSA guys who commute on G7. I personally have 1-2 TSA guys on the Jumpseat per month. I always treat the TSA guys the way I want to be treated. I get them a big bottle of water and make sure they feel welcome. If you really are serious with what you are suggesting, should we deny TSA guys the Jumpseat? I think that would suck for everyone involved. So, do you really want to make sure the TSA pilots don't get home on G7? I personally don't commute, but I'm pretty sure it would really hurt BOTH pilot groups.

Just remember thing work both ways.

I'll do the best I can here. I don't speak for anyone else other than myself. It's personally cost me a lot of career progression and $$, what the original G7 guys did. (It's done the same for the industry as a whole) It kills me every time I see someone signing up to support that. I'm not going to play internet tough guy and pretend that I go around insulting them to their faces in the terminal or anything. I just don't support what the airline stands for.

As for the OH guys, I understand their plight a little bit more than the SJS kids who are willing to stab me in the back for some seniority and that quick upgrade. But still, why not come over to TSA? Better contract, better pilot group, faster upgrade, and you're not supporting an alter-ego.

I'm not even suggesting a "jumpseat war" of any kind, I certainly don't want the TSA guys who commute on G7 to have a hard time. And I'm not going to say that the TSA guys who are "over" the G7 thing and choose to allow them on the jumpseat are "wrong". It's a personal choice, just like working at an alter ego company in the first place.

My purpose posting on these threads is to hopefully enlighten some of these starry-eyed new guys that there IS still an issue with G7 and what they stand for. The gojet guys on here like to go on and on about how there's "no stigma" and they never have problems and whatnot. I've personally seen G7 jumpseaters turned down at many different airlines. Sure, it might not be every plane or even a majority, but it happens. I know that if I'm ever on a hiring board somewhere and someone comes up with gojet on their resume, they're going to be asked why they chose to work at an airline that was formed to stab their fellow pilots in the back.

There's just no reason to go work for a bottom feeder alter-ego airline in today's hiring climate. (Unless maybe you live in RDU and REALLLLLLY want that base).

I think it's a shame that the guys that originally started the whole mess (former TSA pilots) still have and will most likely always have high level management, training, and "union" positions. I must echo the sentiment of why bother going over there when TSA has a better contract, better pay, faster upgrades, and better management. I have never denied a gojet guy a jumpseat.

I wonder if all this guys that would denied the jumpseat to a g7 pilot would take the jumpseat on a g7 flight.... hmmmmm smh...:rolleyes:

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Why go to TSA when every regionals contract is better? Gojet excluded of course. I am sure you make literally 10's of dollars more than me. Not defending Gojet here, just pointing out your flawed logic there tbucket.

Actually TSA's contract is pretty good and has leg by leg cancellation pay.

Just curious what entices a new person to G7 considering all regionals are hiring at ATP mins?

T-bucket... When did you get hired at TSA? Let me guess, when you guys had the worst contract in the industry? Get off your high horse..

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First time he was ever aware of how bad Gojet destroyed his life was Indoc. Indoc at the 2nd worst airline in the history of aviation.

Can anyone look back through those newsletters and see what the actual attrition going back a year or so has been? Just trying to get an idea if the 18 month upgrade for new hires is legit (and I already have 3,300 total, ATP, etc).