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TallFlyer 12-24-2013 10:19 PM

Interview early next month. We'll see.

Is it true that there's no ready reserve in RDU?

Merry Christmas.....

Slats 12-25-2013 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1546732)
Interview early next month. We'll see.

Is it true that there's no ready reserve in RDU?

Merry Christmas.....

I think you've officially interviewed with every regional now...

8hourrule 12-25-2013 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1546732)
Interview early next month. We'll see.

Is it true that there's no ready reserve in RDU?

Merry Christmas.....

It is rare. Same for STL. ORD has daily airport ready reserves. Good luck.

TallFlyer 12-25-2013 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1546759)
I think you've officially interviewed with every regional now...

Not even close. One day we'll talk.

Merry Christmas my friend.

TallFlyer 12-25-2013 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1546764)
It is rare. Same for STL. ORD has daily airport ready reserves. Good luck.

Good to know, thanks.

Cyborgmudhen 12-25-2013 08:18 AM

How hard is it to get RDU ?
Have heard that the last and possibly this current class is all ORD; how long you figure to get RDU if you get ORD ?

8hourrule 12-25-2013 08:31 AM

GoJet updates
 
Should only be in ORD for a few months. Them again I should have only been on reserve for a few months......

sevenforseven 12-25-2013 08:44 AM

Is it your experience (those of you at GoJet) that your airline has the nasty reputation it did back 5 years ago, or has that pretty much gone away?

8hourrule 12-25-2013 11:51 AM

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Not answering that on here. It will give at least 3 people a stroke.

sevenforseven 12-25-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1546913)
Not answering that on here. It will give at least 3 people a stroke.

Yea I understand that. Do send me a PM on your thoughts concerning my question; I'm interested in hearing what you have to say.

Slats 12-25-2013 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by sevenforseven (Post 1546854)
Is it your experience (those of you at GoJet) that your airline has the nasty reputation it did back 5 years ago, or has that pretty much gone away?

It's better! Hopped on them the other day, STL-DEN. Best 2nd class citizens in the business! PSA is of course 3rd

sevenforseven 12-25-2013 03:13 PM

Ha. Well, maybe some day they won't be the redheaded step-children of the industry. Let's face it; those of us who are flying regional are all on the island of misfit toys.

TallFlyer 12-25-2013 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by sevenforseven (Post 1546984)
Ha. Well, maybe some day they won't be the redheaded step-children of the industry. Let's face it; those of us who are flying regional are all on the island of misfit toys.

Well, except for Slats and all his friends at SkyWest. That said, Inc. has shown a willingness to start to lower the bar a little, exhibit number one being the recent XJT offer.

My take on the whole G7 thing: I was in a G7 JS a few weeks ago and asked the crew the same thing. The Capt was former Comair and the FO was former C5 oddly enough. Both said that they had each had only one negative encounter when asking for a JS. The FO said that moving from C5 to G7 had been a really good move for him.

I've seen reports of G7 guys all moving on to bigger and better things as well, so maybe it's not that huge of a deal, save for a few TSA FOs on here that like to get up in arms. I get it, I really do, but it was never really their fight if they've been hired in the last few years.

So yeah, now it's G7 and PSA, and perhaps adding XTJ and/or Eagle to that list depending on how things go down the next few months. What's a guy to do, seriously? From my perspective we should be more mad at the guys who allowed the the massive proliferation of the regionals to begin with, that being the pilot groups that voted in the contracts that had the scope provisions to begin with. But, these are also the same people now sitting on the hiring boards that are holding the keys that let us get out of the regionals. Whining about their scope giveaways at your LCC/Major/Legacy interview is probably not a sure way to get hired.

Ultimately, the regionals are the regionals. The last decade has been something of an aberration regarding movement, but hopefully the next decade is going to be better. Do what you have to do to create opportunities to move on without stepping on the backs of your fellow pilots, but know that different people's idea of what that is or isn't is going to be different from yours.

8hourrule 12-26-2013 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1546974)
Quote:





Originally Posted by sevenforseven


Is it your experience (those of you at GoJet) that your airline has the nasty reputation it did back 5 years ago, or has that pretty much gone away?




It's better! Hopped on them the other day, STL-DEN. Best 2nd class citizens in the business! PSA is of course 3rd

If you feel the need to put yourself in a class above me then lets do it right. I will be a 3rd class citizen then you, being better than me in every way, can be a 2nd class citizen bottom feeding regional scumbag. Scumbag bottom feeder rout stealing wanker 2nd class is still better than 3rd class. So you have that going for you, which is good. Hope we are both 1st class soon buddy. This regional stuff is starting to wear me out.

pengu 12-26-2013 08:39 AM

I might be wrong, but I think slats is female and has moved up to a mainline.

Ual or Hal maybe.

fwiw

8hourrule 12-26-2013 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by pengu (Post 1547289)
I might be wrong, but I think slats is female and has moved up to a mainline.

Ual or Hal maybe.

fwiw

News to me. I hope you are right. One less person I have to compete with in an interview. Not sure why she feels the need to still rub salt in our wounds every day but glad all that hard work and being a woman paid off.

flylikesly 12-28-2013 01:40 PM

Hey GoJet pilots here is a little free information for you! Just because a pilot is in full uniform sitting on your aircraft doesn't mean he is an offline jump seater who didn't check in. Some of us fly for companies,135 operator, who actually pay for our tickets to and from work. So next time you have an FA go grab me from the back and you start lecturing me about how CASS works ask me who I am first. I loved seeing your face after you found out I was a paying passenger and I was going to contact your chief pilot directly. The upgrade to first class was nice, but its still going to be more fun letting your company know why we pushed late.Just remember your place in this world gojet guys and gals, I understand it can be frustrating not paying your bills, eating every other day, and asking mom and dad for help so JR can have a birthday this year, but until you can learn to be professionals, demanded to be treated like professionals, and act like one this sort of crap will continue.

IBPilot 12-28-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by pengu (Post 1547289)
I might be wrong, but I think slats is female and has moved up to a mainline.

Ual or Hal maybe.

fwiw

you are 3/4 right it is female and she considers Skywest equal to mainline ;) Considering she was at Colgan she shouldn't throw stones about bottom feeders.....

Speed Breaker 12-28-2013 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by flylikesly (Post 1548520)
Hey GoJet pilots here is a little free information for you! Just because a pilot is in full uniform sitting on your aircraft doesn't mean he is an offline jump seater who didn't check in. Some of us fly for companies,135 operator, who actually pay for our tickets to and from work. So next time you have an FA go grab me from the back and you start lecturing me about how CASS works ask me who I am first. I loved seeing your face after you found out I was a paying passenger and I was going to contact your chief pilot directly. The upgrade to first class was nice, but its still going to be more fun letting your company know why we pushed late.Just remember your place in this world gojet guys and gals, I understand it can be frustrating not paying your bills, eating every other day, and asking mom and dad for help so JR can have a birthday this year, but until you can learn to be professionals, demanded to be treated like professionals, and act like one this sort of crap will continue.

Hey boss, calm down a bit a see his view maybe. This has been a reacurring thing and many js people do not check in. I have seen it many times. I don't blame him for checking. Doesn't hurt to check. By the way I have been in your shoes and have been asked before too. I do not blame them and would not turn him into a cheif for that. Remember, eventhough a js seater may not be qualified to fly the ac, you could still be of assistance if there is an emergency. You may not be a js, but I don't blame him for checking. Good crm too to have an fa check so he can complete his preflight duties as well.
if he was rude to you though, that isn't cool. I know it sucks commuting and a welcome aboard from the crew always makes it nice. Not trying to justify everything, I am just trying to tell you I have seen too many known js people not chrcking in, so I don't blame him for checking. My two cents to it from both views of the industry as I have been on both sides of the table...

Snickers 12-28-2013 02:55 PM

but I think slats is female and has moved up to a mainline.

Ual or Hal maybe.

fwiw[/QUOTE]

I thought Slats was Wingman?

Having trouble believing he/she got on with HAL...

Dejavu 12-28-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by flylikesly (Post 1548520)
Hey GoJet pilots here is a little free information for you! Just because a pilot is in full uniform sitting on your aircraft doesn't mean he is an offline jump seater who didn't check in. Some of us fly for companies,135 operator, who actually pay for our tickets to and from work. So next time you have an FA go grab me from the back and you start lecturing me about how CASS works ask me who I am first. I loved seeing your face after you found out I was a paying passenger and I was going to contact your chief pilot directly. The upgrade to first class was nice, but its still going to be more fun letting your company know why we pushed late.Just remember your place in this world gojet guys and gals, I understand it can be frustrating not paying your bills, eating every other day, and asking mom and dad for help so JR can have a birthday this year, but until you can learn to be professionals, demanded to be treated like professionals, and act like one this sort of crap will continue.


I know how you feel . you can't blame a gojet guy for checking . I have seen the same thing happen when I was at eagle, captain calling out the pilot to come up front because cause he didn't check in. even though he did not need to since he had a seat and was non rev with the company just as any other family member would .

to avoid this is simple step in and say hi. takes a sec . pilots don't bite or don't travel in uniform lol

happens everywhere

sorry he had to be a dumb fart about it .

8hourrule 12-28-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by flylikesly (Post 1548520)
Hey GoJet pilots here is a little free information for you! Just because a pilot is in full uniform sitting on your aircraft doesn't mean he is an offline jump seater who didn't check in. Some of us fly for companies,135 operator, who actually pay for our tickets to and from work. So next time you have an FA go grab me from the back and you start lecturing me about how CASS works ask me who I am first. I loved seeing your face after you found out I was a paying passenger and I was going to contact your chief pilot directly. The upgrade to first class was nice, but its still going to be more fun letting your company know why we pushed late.Just remember your place in this world gojet guys and gals, I understand it can be frustrating not paying your bills, eating every other day, and asking mom and dad for help so JR can have a birthday this year, but until you can learn to be professionals, demanded to be treated like professionals, and act like one this sort of crap will continue.

Sorry that happened to you. Sounds like the captain was trying to be professional but in a bit of a confrontational way. Hope you can find it in your heart to forgive G7. Looking forward to riding on your jet and smashing your balls apart for not having the 3 different news papers that I require you to have laid out for me. Enjoy spending Christmas Day looking for Tab and gluten free cookies.

block30 12-28-2013 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Speed Breaker (Post 1548549)
Hey boss, calm down a bit a see his view maybe. This has been a reacurring thing and many js people do not check in. I have seen it many times. I don't blame him for checking. Doesn't hurt to check. By the way I have been in your shoes and have been asked before too. I do not blame them and would not turn him into a cheif for that. Remember, eventhough a js seater may not be qualified to fly the ac, you could still be of assistance if there is an emergency. You may not be a js, but I don't blame him for checking. Good crm too to have an fa check so he can complete his preflight duties as well.
if he was rude to you though, that isn't cool. I know it sucks commuting and a welcome aboard from the crew always makes it nice. Not trying to justify everything, I am just trying to tell you I have seen too many known js people not chrcking in, so I don't blame him for checking. My two cents to it from both views of the industry as I have been on both sides of the table...

This is *at least* the second time I have heard of GoJets pilots going Nazi after a jumpseater who...oops....WASN'T a jumpseater. What a bunch of bull crap!! I'm embarrassed for that crew. Yes, I have heard stories of jumpseaters not checking in, but there are better ways of handling things! Like asking questions before you shoot. :mad: Flylikesly, beer is on me!!!! I'd like the details in a PM, too, please. Names would be great.

FLYZERG 12-28-2013 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Dejavu (Post 1548634)
I know how you feel . you can't blame a gojet guy for checking . I have seen the same thing happen when I was at eagle, captain calling out the pilot to come up front because cause he didn't check in. even though he did not need to since he had a seat and was non rev with the company just as any other family member would .

to avoid this is simple step in and say hi. takes a sec . pilots don't bite or don't travel in uniform lol

happens everywhere

sorry he had to be a dumb fart about it .

If I gate check the bag I will go up every time when nonreving, if they don't gate check the bag most of the time I do not, I just want to make sure the bag gets in the overhead first.

Dejavu 12-28-2013 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by FLYZERG (Post 1548646)
If I gate check the bag I will go up every time when nonreving, if they don't gate check the bag most of the time I do not, I just want to make sure the bag gets in the overhead first.

ya lol i totally understand that rush having to board last and not have room fighting for that overhead been Im in that same spot

8hourrule 12-28-2013 06:24 PM

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Half a million flights in the books for g7 and you know of two that have gone badly. I see a trend here too. The captain gave him first class after he realized what he did. That sounds pretty fare to me. We all bone things up once in a while. If you guys cannot admit that then damn..... I am sure the captain came at him a little hard or else he would not have felt the need to type out that scathing review. For that I am sorry, but if you have any type of head on your shoulders you would expect this to happen from time to time if you are riding in full uniform. It happened to me before. Delta. Captain apologized and offered me a first class meal and tried to get me in first but it was full. I turned down the meal and shook his hand. It was not a big deal. He was way more upset about it than I was. Sounds like you handled it like a total badass though. Get em boss. You showed us.

8hourrule 12-28-2013 06:35 PM

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The fact that you took the upgrade and are still going to be a nark speaks volumes to you as a person as well.

727CA 12-28-2013 06:38 PM

Need some help. I've spent the day scouring countless GoJet threads and now I'm more confused & frustrated than ever.
I'm a furloughed pilot, been furloughed for a year, can't find a flying job and I'm looking at applying at GoJet. My main attraction to GoJet is the quick upgrade. Recruiters I've spoken with at other regionals have told me I'm looking at 5 years to the left seat at those regionals.

I know the definition of a scab, (I was ALPA committee member at the airline I'm furloughed from). Some pilots say flying for GoJet is scabbing, an equal amount of pilots say not. Some say you're a scab "in spirit". What the heck is a scab in spirit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but GoJet pilots aren't crossing picket lines or flying stuck work or taking anyones job. I'm confused
Also, how will being a GoJet pilot affect me when applying at a legacy airline.

Regarding jumpseating, Some people say GoJet pilots get denied jumpseats all the time, an equal amount say that's not true. These forums are ALL over the place regarding the truth to being denied jumpseats.
(Mods: please don't delete my post, I'm just a freight dog seeking honest answers and trying to avoid drama.)
Please help, Thanks!

8hourrule 12-28-2013 06:48 PM

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Upgrade is a year or two out for those of us already on property. Not a great place to work. Not an terrible place to work. Never denied a jumpseat nor do I know of anybody that has. Pilots have moved on to every major and LLC. I get asked what a GoJet is when I ride up front.

727CA 12-28-2013 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1548663)
Upgrade is a year or two out for those of us already on property. Not a great place to work. Not an terrible place to work. Never denied a jumpseat nor do I know of anybody that has. Pilots have moved on to every major and LLC. I get asked what a GoJet is when I ride up front.

Thanks 8hr,
Is the skd pretty commutable?
Airline profile for GoJet says that most junior captain (non-direct entry) hired is Dec 2012 (STL). Are they hiring entry level capts, especially now with the ATP requirement kicking in?
and regarding my scab questions, any opinion on that?
thanks

Dejavu 12-28-2013 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1548644)
I'd like the details in a PM, too, please. Names would be great.



I just can't stop laughing :D REALLY ?


sorry

8hourrule 12-28-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Dejavu (Post 1548672)
Quote:





Originally Posted by block30


I'd like the details in a PM, too, please. Names would be great.






I just can't stop laughing REALLY ?


sorry

Right??? I mean really.......

What 12-28-2013 07:05 PM

If you have questions about a Pax inboard your airplane ask your gate agent, that will save you time and the embarrassment.

Are there any JS in the back? No! Ok, thanks! After landing, greet the man and you might make a new friend, remember that it's all about networking!

Dejavu 12-28-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1548674)
If you have questions about a Pax inboard your airplane ask your gate agent, that will save you time and the embarrassment.

Are there any JS in the back? No! Ok, thanks! After landing, greet the man and you might make a new friend, remember that it's all about networking!

yes the very polite way :D

8hourrule 12-28-2013 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by 727CA (Post 1548669)
Quote:





Originally Posted by 8hourrule


Upgrade is a year or two out for those of us already on property. Not a great place to work. Not an terrible place to work. Never denied a jumpseat nor do I know of anybody that has. Pilots have moved on to every major and LLC. I get asked what a GoJet is when I ride up front.




Thanks 8hr,
Is the skd pretty commutable? 117 is making it rough.

Airline profile for GoJet says that most junior captain (non-direct entry) hired is Dec 2012 (STL). True.

Are they hiring entry level capts, especially now with the ATP requirement kicking in? Nope.

and regarding my scab questions, any opinion on that?
thanks. Has TSA ever been on strike?No more are we scabs than any other regional that is flying today.

.................

8hourrule 12-28-2013 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1548674)
If you have questions about a Pax inboard your airplane ask your gate agent, that will save you time and the embarrassment.

Are there any JS in the back? No! Ok, thanks! After landing, greet the man and you might make a new friend, remember that it's all about networking!

Perfect solution. How easy and civil was that. Pilots helping pilots. What an idea.

MachJ 12-28-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1548680)
Perfect solution. How easy and civil was that. Pilots helping pilots. What an idea.

Pilots helping pilots? I don't get it. This guy didn't need any help; he needed to not be harassed by Capt. Respect My Authoritah!
If I see a pilot in uniform who didn't check in I would assume they are deadheading or non-rev, neither of which need to check in with the crew. It seems rather telling that this capt. just assumed he was jumpseating. I love all the replies from the Gojets brain trust. Just, wow.
The last part of the guy's post about professionalism is spot on. Try to open your minds a bit and think about what he wrote.

8hourrule 12-29-2013 01:44 AM

GoJet updates
 
His comment was constructive and not talking down to us "little" people. I was not talking about the 135 guy.

carolinaflyer 12-29-2013 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by flylikesly (Post 1548520)
Hey GoJet pilots here is a little free information for you! Just because a pilot is in full uniform sitting on your aircraft doesn't mean he is an offline jump seater who didn't check in. Some of us fly for companies,135 operator, who actually pay for our tickets to and from work. So next time you have an FA go grab me from the back and you start lecturing me about how CASS works ask me who I am first. I loved seeing your face after you found out I was a paying passenger and I was going to contact your chief pilot directly. The upgrade to first class was nice, but its still going to be more fun letting your company know why we pushed late.Just remember your place in this world gojet guys and gals, I understand it can be frustrating not paying your bills, eating every other day, and asking mom and dad for help so JR can have a birthday this year, but until you can learn to be professionals, demanded to be treated like professionals, and act like one this sort of crap will continue.

You sir are the one that needs a bit of polishing and a course in professionalism is something that YOU could benefit from. Let me teach you a lesson...the professional thing to do while traveling in uniform is to check in with the crew to remove all question of who you are. There are jumpseateres that do not check in, so separate yourself from those people. It takes twenty seconds to check in with the crew and by doing so you may get an upgrade the proper way.
Remember this business is all about networking and you never know who you may meet and how that person may become a contact to help you in the future.
I can promise you that in this situation you'll certainly be remembered...as the douche bag 135 guy that was so offended he threatened calling the CP to report some guys for doing that which is in their scope and authority. Does not sound to me like they crossed any lines or made a scene...they did the right thing, you did not!!
You obviously feel empowered by jumping on the GoJet haters train, but that train has unfortunately already left the station and no one really cares about it any longer. GoJet may have a few sour apples, but for the most part they are a good group. You may try to make them out as scum of the regional world, but all you're really trying to do is make yourself feel better about your own, obviously crappy world and life. Go ahead and keep hating but GoJet'ers are now and will soon be filling more cockpit seats at UAL, AAL, and DAL...and thankfully you'll still be 135 with your bad attitude!!! Or you can let those courses in professionalism pay off, do the right thing, think for yourself, not be a band-wagoner, and find some happiness instead of wasting a crew's time at the gate or a chief pilot's time with your nonsense.

block30 12-29-2013 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Dejavu (Post 1548672)
I just can't stop laughing :D REALLY ?


sorry

You find that situation funny? Nice. I don't. Yeah, I've heard *more* than two stories so far, but I'm not sure how many are separate or the same instance. It seems like *some* of the GoJets pilot group are so worried about jumpseat retribution that they resort to these childish antics. So I'd like to who we're dealing with here, maybe I'll end up in the same situation with the same captain. I'd like to differentiate these clowns from the rest of the group.

And really 8hour? Was I attacking you personally? Aren't you from Comair? I feel bad for you guys at Comair. Great folks! Why are you smarting me off???? What this captain did was wrong and embarrassing. If there is a backlash, then I say good. Maybe people will THINK and ask questions before shooting next time.

So yeah, keep laughing about how a captain acted like a complete clown, as if what I said was directed at you anyways. :rolleyes:


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