Desperation?

I wouldn't call it that. I had offers from Envoy, Republic, Expressjet, etc... why would I go spend years on reserve and wait a half decade + to upgrade when I could do it all quicker at GoJet? Yes it's a crappy regional, but the goal is to get in and get out. And Compass is the only one who didn't give me an interview so don't tell me I should've went there.

I'm pretty sure my pet hampster could score job offers from about 80% of regional carriers right now.

Cool dude. What's your point.

You can't get an interview at Compass yet somehow expect to quick upgrade yourself magically to a major?

ELOHEL

From what I understand they want prior 121. Gotta start somewhere. Not expecting to "magically upgrade to a major" so ****.

You have a pet hampster or a pet hamster?

Lets hope you don't spend your 2.5 years there and then **** someone off by some outrageous conduct such as getting a kidney stone and having to be out 3 weeks. You might come back and find yourself getting a "checkride with a purpose" that strangely enough you won't pass. Then you might end up at one of the non-"crappy" regionals, again hoping to "get in and get out." Good luck with the gamble, some guys do manage to get in and get out, although I have not seen any get out too quickly.

Both........

I heard of this kind of crap going on at go jet. I still wonder why people choose to go there in this hiring environment.

People are misinformed and assume flying for a regional (any of them) will be better than instructing. Then, they get there and reality sinks in and end up leaving. Unfortunately, there are certain things that must be learned the hard way. I learned the hard way but walked away before I put in any real time. I did gain invaluable experience. I got to see what it was like to fly for a company that will back stab employees. I got to learn all my aircraft systems in practice due to all the MELs. I got to experience an abnormal situation at least once a month. In general, those who are attending a University will have a different approach than those who are not for the most part. You can't forget that there are those out there who have no student loans and so any return value by any airline will be more than money invested in this career. Too, many factors to list and those vary with up bringing and economical backgrounds. But, not to worry. Those who do decide to go there and are people of value, will not last a year.

Why would they randomly fire a pilot they trained if they can't even find enough candidates to apply for the job? This seems very strange!

Ok none of this is true. Especially with CQT, it's an asinine assumption.

I got out quickly. Many others have also

When did you leave & to where??

It didn't happen to Bernouli so I guess it doesn't happen and never happened. Give me the 100 best pilots in aviation and I can get 95 of them to fail a check ride in a sim on a single maneuver. And all 95 will agree that they failed. Nothing hard but you set them up mentally to expect one thing and something else happens. The loud noise along with the timing starts a mental process that causes the error. I bet every sim instructor has a similar item that they discovered by accident.

I remember at one airline the pilots were having the captains log all landings so that every FO would be noncurrent in 90 days. They were trying to force the company to do something, I forget what. The DO said that every FO who has to go into the sim to get recurrent could expect him to be there sitting in the sim. He didn't say he would make the instructor fail the guy but the instructor would not have any leeway to pass him if he wasn't perfect so both the instructor and the FO would be nervous. The job action ended quickly.

I remember another job action at a company. Eight guys in a row failed the sim and the job action abruptly ended. This was pre pria so it didn't have much effect except losing a little pay. With pria that kind of stuff can end your career. Actually, it may prevent you from leaving that company because others may not hire you. Now there is a creative way to keep pilots.

I recommend to go for the quality regionals. Comair is gone but Skywest is still out there. What other regionals would you consider quality?

More than a year ago.

A legacy carrier.

I had a good experience at G7. No regrets at all.

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For the love of god someone help me get off of the Union message board!!! I quit so I cannot login to the site myself. I need a contact number or email. Please!!!

Dude, just go to the ibt website, request a username and pw reminder and remove yourself..

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Dude I am not a member anymore. Thanks dude.

How about pilot busts arm at work during slip and fall, returns to work after some time, then wife goes into hospital. Pilot has to take care of kids. Pilot lost job!

How about you change that avatar? LOL...

It keeps getting denied...

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Quick update for those of you planning on leaving. Gojet did not pay me my vacation pay when I quit. I gave two weeks notice and did not call in sick. Just letting you guys know. I was really planning on having that money. Don't want someone to end up in trouble like I was. Feel free to PM me and I will tell you the way they attempted to justify it. Doing the same thing to my friend right now.

Call tha labor department in your state and file a wage claim.

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Not sure vacation pay is covered, but I will look into it for sure.

Poor 8HourRule, he should be thankful he even got a paycheck after the airline was nice enough to let him work there and build the experience so he could move on to bigger and better things! What makes these guys think they are so deserving? The planes are shinny, have electronic displays, jet engines, carry people, and the hours he sits there can go into a logbook. If he wants a paying job he should go deep fry pieces of chicken. After a while he can build his time and eventually deep fry Turkeys! Republic has a $20,000 training contract that this airline doesn't have, and 8HourRule is complaining about loosing $2000 in vacation pay! He should be bragging to everyone that he came out $18,000 ahead! This airline could have treated you halfway decently and you might have become happy and content and lost all your aspirations to go to a major. That would have ruined your life and you would not even have known it! You need to have a seat on your fat asp, pull out a pen and a piece of paper and write this airline a letter thanking them for the opportunities they gave you and how they allowed you to keep your desire to eventually get a job that pays money and where they treat you with respect. Send me your address and I will even send you the pen and paper with a stamped envelope to get you started. Maybe one of the other guys will come over and wipe your asp after the next time you give a crap, you sick ungrateful pilot want-to-be!

Did you explain that when you turned your Jeppesens in they found one of the 3000 pages was missing and another one had a coffee stain on it! Did you, did you tell them that! A missing page and a coffee stain and you expect your vacation pay. Call your mom because she is the only one who wants to hear this ship. Imagine if they had given those Jeps to another pilot, I can see the headline now, "Plane from respected airline crashes into manure truck during approach into Saint Louis, coffee stained approach plate found on scene! Former pilot who is sought for questioning is on the run after leaving his vacation hotel with unpaid charges."

There are 2 types of people at that airline, the ones who are "planning on leaving", and the ones the airline is about to fire. Those in the second category are thinking that - "they won't fire me because they are desperate for pilots and can't get anyone to come here!" It seems like every few days someone gets a big suprise! After all, its the Christmas season. To quote a former chief pilot there as described by his roomate's girlfriend, "I didn't plan on firing anyone today, but one guy came in and before I knew what was happening I had fired him. Bad day for him, ... he he he." Now, here comes the funny part, he fired the roomate's girlfriend a few weeks later.

I highly recommend this airline to anyone willing to take a gamble. Eventually they will either have to improve their ways or shutdown. If they improve their ways you will get all the benefit of the fast movement because of the high amount of attrition! And each and every day you go to work you will experience the thrill and excitement of the life of a soap opera actor! The gossip of hearing about who was terminated and why, about Bob quitting and them not paying his vacation, about Diedra getting breast cancer then being fired, about Dawn publicly supporting the union and being fired, and the constant intrigue created by always wondering when you will be written off of the script! It was a gamble for anyone to go to Eastern Airlines in 1988 but the potential benefits were incredible! This could be your Eastern! Have some balls and Goooo---Jettttt!

^^ You forgot the Z. GOOO JETTTZZZ.

good god that's a lengthy post. must have taken awhile to put together.

bravo.

I have a good friend who had the same thing happen. GoJet seems to be worse than all the rest. Their performance numbers stink too.

I honestly don't know why more aren't jumping over here to TSA. We are tripling and all new hires will be like in the top 3rd of seniority in 2 years with a better contract and pay protection and way better management.

I dont think you can go from Gojet to tsa

You're owned by the same SOB who is doing this at GoJet. Why reward Uncle Hulas. He is probably the worst airline CEO in the business. Look what he does with GoJet.

Problem is he doesn't run TSA or GoJet, just owns them. Our management is 180 degrees from yours.

JO and Bedford are FAR worse.

Whatever. He owns the company and none of the contracts are that impressive. Hulas has always been the worst. He cashes in at your expense and you just accept it.

Bitter much? Our contract is quite nice and we are treated well by management. TSA is not GoJet

Your contract is nowhere near that of Horizon, ASA, XJT, Air Wisconsin, or SkyWest. It really isn't nearly as good as Envoy's either. Hulas owns you and GoJet. Why does he treat them so bad then? Does he like you guys more?

Not only Hulas, even Mr. Wonderful Steve Briner is bringing that airline to the ground! I'm sure most people at comair loved that guy LOL:D

Do tell more. I'm surprised Steve is driving this. Why are so many Comair folks doing this. They were the best in the industry.

Uhhhhh…. because GoJet pilots proved that they were 100% willing to bend over and hand Hulas a jar of Vaseline with a smile on their face? TSA pilots held the line, and that led to the creation of GoJet. Mgmt knows that they can beat the G7 pilots with a stick and get away with it. Not the same story on the other side of the house.

If you are going to G7 thinking that they will get an improved contract you will be very disappointed. The gentlemen doing the negotiating are just that, gentlemen. The company guys are sent there with no authority, their one job is to listen, ask questions, and talk about how much they would like to do what is being asked but it will create lots of problems, they will have to consider it very carefully but will see what they can do on it. Lets get together in about 3 months and discuss it again. Delay, delay delay. Gosh, sounds like republic and is it PSA?