Originally Posted by Cgo John (Post 1757072)

One guy told me that he gave his 2 week notice. He flew his last trip and when he went to jumpseat home he had been taken out of CASS. No jumpseat, no flight privileges. He thinks they would rather not get the 2 weeks notice so they can save the 2 weeks of vacation pay. Impressive how they watch every penny.

Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1747149)

All the Delta (Comair/ASA) birds are single FMS. Delta offers meals during certain times of the day and length of the leg. United have meal boxes (crackers). GoJet considers taking a coke or water with you as theft. Some crew members (new) try to enforce that so be careful with taking a bottle of water to the Hotel (which do not provide free water) with you, you might get written up for theft and you may be looking at a life long sentence at as a GoJet Pilot.

Delta birds are pretty, but bent out of shape. Always will need lots of rudder and aileron trip to keep the flying straight. The United birds are newer, however the FO FMS always goes out (dark). This happens because it overheats and shuts down as a safety feature. It gets written up and deffered all the time, but never really fixed. All they do is reset the breaker.

All the GoJet birds' nose wheel shimmies like crazy during take off and landing. Its so bad that it feels like its going to fall off at some point. This gets written up all the time, but it must be a brain buster because it never gets fixed.

Double check your logbook after your captain. Many have flown with open write ups and missing registration. Fly that plane as if you were the captain. Don't be intimidated because you are a flight instructor who is now new to an airline. A plane is a plane, and the regs are the regs. Speak up and never assume anything. The moment you assume, just hit the timer because it will be only a matter of time before the hammer drops.

Know you GOM/SOP,,,believe it of not, some check airman think they are GOD and know it all. Your only defense is to know where to find the answer and show him/her in black and white. You don't even have to argue.

Every trip you fly it will be spent in the cockpit talking about the **** pay and other nonsense the Union isn't doing for the pilot group. Don't be that guy because guess what, you chose to be there and you can leave if you don't like it.

All the birds have paint chipping and dents everywhere. The first time you do your walk around just make sure nothing is leaking and parts are not on the tarmac LOL...sorry but its true.

Planes are pretty, they are bigger than the E145. You will be sitting higher up than your seminole. Cockpit its nice, lots of space I think. There is a cup holder but its a bit useless because the cup can't fit due to the stick shaker on/off switch being in the way. There will be a nice area for your flight kit. Don't buy a flight Kit with side bags because they wont fit. The carpets needs replacement. They keep duct taping it so people don't trip over them.

Make sure you are familiar with over wing refueling procedures. You will be doing them a lot!! No you cannot gravity fuel the center tank! Yes this was actually done! They somehow pulled the fairing out or GOD knows what and managed to do it!. Know your fuel imbalance limits because your cross flow pump will become inop and or differed!!! PLEASE do NOT taxi around the airport in circles with your GRAVITY CROSS FLOW OPEN to try and even it out that way....YES IT WAS DONE! If you have an inop CROSS FLOW PUMP remind the captain that the APU draws from the left collector tank, and to taxi out with both engines running or alternate LOL.

The most important of all if you get into an imbalance situation in the air and get to the QRH part where it says to consider a side slip: PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS! Swept back wing in thin air slipping is NUTS: and yes somebody actually suggested this during a recurrent scenario discussion!!!!

Please PEOPLE, all I ask is to use your head and remember that your captain needs your help too! There is a reason for the type requiring two pilots to fly it. Even though you are on the right seat, act is if you were the captain. This doesn't mean telling anybody what to do, this just means double and triple check everything and make suggestions. If something doesn't look safe, you can walk away. The plane will not go anywhere with just the captain at the wheel.

Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1747371)

Yup, and if anyone called in sick the same year as your vacation time and left GoJet before taking your vacation, they will NOT pay you the vacation time. YES EVEN McDonalds pays you the vacation time you are earned if you leave without using it. NO GoJEt will not pay you the vacation you have earned if you leave before using it.

Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1759447)

Two classes a month in 2015. Any new flying? Or just a extreme need for pilots?

Originally Posted by Cgo John (Post 1757072)

One guy told me that he gave his 2 week notice. He flew his last trip and when he went to jumpseat home he had been taken out of CASS. No jumpseat, no flight privileges. He thinks they would rather not get the 2 weeks notice so they can save the 2 weeks of vacation pay. Impressive how they watch every penny.

Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1759584)

I can believe this 100%. Luckily I put two and two together and avoided the issue. The fact is that when you are hired at GoJet, they do not put you on CASS right away like every other airline does. So, if you are in class during the holidays, you can't count of the FLT Deck seat. You can jump seat Cabin only.

Here is when I put two and two together...If they were not willing to even meet the national standard when issuing CASS access, and did not trust their pilots to leave and come back on time during the holidays, then why would they honor your CASS privilege when it would be time to leave?

I put in my two weeks and stayed home. I mailed everything and didn't have to worry about getting stranded. Business ethics there is non existent. I cannot stress that enough. Do not go there expecting anything other than to be paid for what you fly and nothing in between. There are plenty other companies hiring that have career progression and treat their employees better.

Originally Posted by Speed Breaker (Post 1759958)

Ya, I can tell anyone wishing to resign exactly what my experience was:

1. Was never taken out of CASS. Had no problem getting home and everything went well there.

2. Earned vacation pay will be paid to you provided; A) you give at least a FULL 2 weeks notice and B) You do not call in sick during those two weeks. The thinking on the latter is that the company requires you to use vacation instead of sick pay if you do.

3. The one big thing for me was that I had to fight multiple times to get it all straightened out. Meaning, I had to send emails after each paycheck after I left to get it right. Not a huge deal as they fixed them for me, but just watch out to make sure. They were actually all very nice and made sure they got it right in the end. It just took two extra paychecks to do it. Had one problem with my hourly rate and the second was my missing vaca pay.

All and all, not a big problem for me. I left on good terms and the CP (newest one that I know of right now), base manager, and payroll manager were all very nice and helped me through the whole thing. I am not a pro-regional anything, I am just telling you exactly my experience. Yes, I left months ago and haven't looked back. Just kind of funny, because I found these posts and at least wanted to get what I have seen out there..... Easy for me to say now though..... I am at my dream job and couldn't be happier...... Good luck to all!

Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1760593)

How much flight time are reservist and line holders getting?

Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1760717)

Beech90, you sparked my curiosity. Why do you continue to look into GoJet even after all the information available (current and past) to you. I can tell you that nobody here is lying and its all accurate. Some may have had a different experience while quitting or during their first new hire class but, doesn't mean they aren't true. This just highlights GoJet's inconsistency in the way they do business.

Do they have a base where you live?

Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1760721)

I'm interested in Gojet as they have a base where I live. Move along.

Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1760844)

I can certainly appreciate the desire to want to be based at home. It's probably easier to be home based for a crappy job than commute to a really good one.

There are a lot of really good guys there at GoJet that I had the opportunity to fly with for a couple of months, so none of what I'm about to say is a knock on them, but here are some thoughts you might want to consider.

If you live in STL take a good hard look at Trans States. There's a fresh rumor floating around the board about them getting a lot of new growth, and if that happens, and you're at GoJet, they'll be no crossing over.

If you live in ORD, again, look at TSA or SkyWest. Yes, the upgrade at GoJet is probably shorter, but these days, perhaps not by too much. Better company, and you're going to make more money.

If you live in DEN, make sure and get some current info on how senior that base is, and how large it is. When I left, it was still pretty small and very senior.

If you live in RDU, probably better in a lot of ways to just go to PSA and drive to CLT. Also, the rumor is that as Delta increases 717 flying in LGA, there will be less of a reason to have an RDU base, and maybe it goes away. The latter rumor is totally unsubstantiated, but within the realm of possibility.

Just my random thoughts on the matter.

Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1760721)

I'm interested in Gojet as they have a base where I live. Move along.

Originally Posted by pause (Post 1760197)

I left a long time ago and also did not get pulled out of CASS after I put in my notice. What I found funny was they required you to return all of the brass (which I didn't want anyway) so I tied them to fishing string then tied the string to my bumper and drove around the block. Put them in the box and sent them back to Hulie. I threw my hat in the crew room trash as I walked out the door for the last time. Greatest feeling ever to leave that place. Flew with a ton of awesome former TWA & Chicago Express guys/ladies there.

Originally Posted by ALTBUS (Post 1775834)

New upgrade minimums at Gojet Airlines. They have lowered the current 3500 hours to 2500, upgrade time is back at 24 months top.

Originally Posted by ALTBUS (Post 1775834)

New upgrade minimums at Gojet Airlines. They have lowered the current 3500 hours to 2500, upgrade time is back at 24 months top.

Originally Posted by Concorde001 (Post 1775859)

Is this true or just joking?

Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1775851)

Yeah right, you're just trolling for people junior to you on the list. "OMGZ, super fast upgradez here now" says everyone at every regional.

Originally Posted by Papa Bear (Post 1775905)

Here is the thing...You have to do your homework but if you are a terrible student like myself here are the Cliff Notes...some
G7 owns/leases half of the A/C it operates. That means G7 only controls it's destiny by small margins. Momma Delta at G7 in all reality controls your (new hire, upgrade) fate.
Some guys can chime in to what happened at TSA/Eagle back in 07 when the 145s went back to Eagle and alot of people were furloughed.

So think for a minute or two and imagine... Here you are 2yrs down the road and momma Delta moves some of those assets around and at G7 a reduction of flying.

What type of QOL are you going to have?
How easy will it be with 1200ish turbine time to just jump ship, start all over again $20ish an hour, RSV living/sitting.
Do your homework from here on out about pay, work rules, RSV obligations.
I think if anyone really takes a look at the 30page contract and asks about some of the terrible TAs that have been shoved down the pilots throats you will be shocked.
Oh and BTW most all of the guys now by far have enough time to upgrade...management is just dangling a rotten carrot to new hires with yet another mirage. One is the bonus another is 24months you can be an airline captain...hmmm

Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1775851)

Yeah right, you're just trolling for people junior to you on the list. "OMGZ, super fast upgradez here now" says everyone at every regional.

Originally Posted by Papa Bear (Post 1775905)

Here is the thing...You have to do your homework but if you are a terrible student like myself here are the Cliff Notes...some
G7 owns/leases half of the A/C it operates. That means G7 only controls it's destiny by small margins. Momma Delta at G7 in all reality controls your (new hire, upgrade) fate.
Some guys can chime in to what happened at TSA/Eagle back in 07 when the 145s went back to Eagle and alot of people were furloughed.

So think for a minute or two and imagine... Here you are 2yrs down the road and momma Delta moves some of those assets around and at G7 a reduction of flying.

What type of QOL are you going to have?
How easy will it be with 1200ish turbine time to just jump ship, start all over again $20ish an hour, RSV living/sitting.
Do your homework from here on out about pay, work rules, RSV obligations.
I think if anyone really takes a look at the 30page contract and asks about some of the terrible TAs that have been shoved down the pilots throats you will be shocked.
Oh and BTW most all of the guys now by far have enough time to upgrade...management is just dangling a rotten carrot to new hires with yet another mirage. One is the bonus another is 24months you can be an airline captain...hmmm

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock (Post 1776420)

Upgrades are being advertised as just as short if not shorter at many other regionals with far better contracts. And the bases are not a factor for commuting because they're shared with other regionals with better contracts. I sincerely do hope that G7 gets a great contract that vastly improves life there. But I will not hold my breath.

Originally Posted by theycallmered (Post 1776361)

Orrr you could look at it his way.... the planes don't go anywhere and people upgrade quickly and get the ******* out of the regionals.

Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1776554)

Can someone pm me the contact info to have myself removed from the union web board. I quit a few months ago and figured it would be automatic. Guess not.

Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1776472)

Sounds like a great place to work.

Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1776830)

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Originally Posted by 8hourrule


Can someone pm me the contact info to have myself removed from the union web board. I quit a few months ago and figured it would be automatic. Guess not.




Where did you go..??