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Slim11 12-10-2014 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1779966)
If you are going to G7 thinking that they will get an improved contract you will be very disappointed. The gentlemen doing the negotiating are just that, gentlemen. The company guys are sent there with no authority, their one job is to listen, ask questions, and talk about how much they would like to do what is being asked but it will create lots of problems, they will have to consider it very carefully but will see what they can do on it. Lets get together in about 3 months and discuss it again. Delay, delay delay. Gosh, sounds like republic and is it PSA?

Sounds more like Delta and Comair! Whenever Comair and the negotiating team came to an "agreement in principle," a member of the Comair negotiating team had to step out and call ATL for approval. Same tactic...the names are changed to protect the guilty!

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1779281)
Quick update for those of you planning on leaving. Gojet did not pay me my vacation pay when I quit. I gave two weeks notice and did not call in sick. Just letting you guys know. I was really planning on having that money. Don't want someone to end up in trouble like I was. Feel free to PM me and I will tell you the way they attempted to justify it. Doing the same thing to my friend right now.

Yup happened to me too and I already posted this issue early on in this thread but some people didn't believe it. I didn't pursue any more actions because the time and stress involved was not worth $500 bucks.

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1779494)
Poor 8HourRule, he should be thankful he even got a paycheck after the airline was nice enough to let him work there and build the experience so he could move on to bigger and better things! What makes these guys think they are so deserving? The planes are shinny, have electronic displays, jet engines, carry people, and the hours he sits there can go into a logbook. If he wants a paying job he should go deep fry pieces of chicken. After a while he can build his time and eventually deep fry Turkeys! Republic has a $20,000 training contract that this airline doesn't have, and 8HourRule is complaining about loosing $2000 in vacation pay! He should be bragging to everyone that he came out $18,000 ahead! This airline could have treated you halfway decently and you might have become happy and content and lost all your aspirations to go to a major. That would have ruined your life and you would not even have known it! You need to have a seat on your fat asp, pull out a pen and a piece of paper and write this airline a letter thanking them for the opportunities they gave you and how they allowed you to keep your desire to eventually get a job that pays money and where they treat you with respect. Send me your address and I will even send you the pen and paper with a stamped envelope to get you started. Maybe one of the other guys will come over and wipe your asp after the next time you give a crap, you sick ungrateful pilot want-to-be!

Did you explain that when you turned your Jeppesens in they found one of the 3000 pages was missing and another one had a coffee stain on it! Did you, did you tell them that! A missing page and a coffee stain and you expect your vacation pay. Call your mom because she is the only one who wants to hear this ship. Imagine if they had given those Jeps to another pilot, I can see the headline now, "Plane from respected airline crashes into manure truck during approach into Saint Louis, coffee stained approach plate found on scene! Former pilot who is sought for questioning is on the run after leaving his vacation hotel with unpaid charges."

There are 2 types of people at that airline, the ones who are "planning on leaving", and the ones the airline is about to fire. Those in the second category are thinking that - "they won't fire me because they are desperate for pilots and can't get anyone to come here!" It seems like every few days someone gets a big suprise! After all, its the Christmas season. To quote a former chief pilot there as described by his roomate's girlfriend, "I didn't plan on firing anyone today, but one guy came in and before I knew what was happening I had fired him. Bad day for him, ... he he he." Now, here comes the funny part, he fired the roomate's girlfriend a few weeks later.

I highly recommend this airline to anyone willing to take a gamble. Eventually they will either have to improve their ways or shutdown. If they improve their ways you will get all the benefit of the fast movement because of the high amount of attrition! And each and every day you go to work you will experience the thrill and excitement of the life of a soap opera actor! The gossip of hearing about who was terminated and why, about Bob quitting and them not paying his vacation, about Diedra getting breast cancer then being fired, about Dawn publicly supporting the union and being fired, and the constant intrigue created by always wondering when you will be written off of the script! It was a gamble for anyone to go to Eastern Airlines in 1988 but the potential benefits were incredible! This could be your Eastern! Have some balls and Goooo---Jettttt!

Was this a sarcastic post?? LOL Its hard to tell because its lengthy. Most people write a sentence to prove a point but, the rest of the thesis is toward his/her main idea.

8hourrule 12-12-2014 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1781757)
Quote:





Originally Posted by 8hourrule


Quick update for those of you planning on leaving. Gojet did not pay me my vacation pay when I quit. I gave two weeks notice and did not call in sick. Just letting you guys know. I was really planning on having that money. Don't want someone to end up in trouble like I was. Feel free to PM me and I will tell you the way they attempted to justify it. Doing the same thing to my friend right now.




Yup happened to me too and I already posted this issue early on in this thread but some people didn't believe it. I didn't pursue any more actions because the time and stress involved was not worth $500 bucks.

I just chewed $500 bucks worth of a$$. Even that was pointless as they do not care.

8hourrule 12-12-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1781767)
Quote:





Originally Posted by Freedom2


Poor 8HourRule, he should be thankful he even got a paycheck after the airline was nice enough to let him work there and build the experience so he could move on to bigger and better things! What makes these guys think they are so deserving? The planes are shinny, have electronic displays, jet engines, carry people, and the hours he sits there can go into a logbook. If he wants a paying job he should go deep fry pieces of chicken. After a while he can build his time and eventually deep fry Turkeys! Republic has a $20,000 training contract that this airline doesn't have, and 8HourRule is complaining about loosing $2000 in vacation pay! He should be bragging to everyone that he came out $18,000 ahead! This airline could have treated you halfway decently and you might have become happy and content and lost all your aspirations to go to a major. That would have ruined your life and you would not even have known it! You need to have a seat on your fat asp, pull out a pen and a piece of paper and write this airline a letter thanking them for the opportunities they gave you and how they allowed you to keep your desire to eventually get a job that pays money and where they treat you with respect. Send me your address and I will even send you the pen and paper with a stamped envelope to get you started. Maybe one of the other guys will come over and wipe your asp after the next time you give a crap, you sick ungrateful pilot want-to-be!

Did you explain that when you turned your Jeppesens in they found one of the 3000 pages was missing and another one had a coffee stain on it! Did you, did you tell them that! A missing page and a coffee stain and you expect your vacation pay. Call your mom because she is the only one who wants to hear this ship. Imagine if they had given those Jeps to another pilot, I can see the headline now, "Plane from respected airline crashes into manure truck during approach into Saint Louis, coffee stained approach plate found on scene! Former pilot who is sought for questioning is on the run after leaving his vacation hotel with unpaid charges."

There are 2 types of people at that airline, the ones who are "planning on leaving", and the ones the airline is about to fire. Those in the second category are thinking that - "they won't fire me because they are desperate for pilots and can't get anyone to come here!" It seems like every few days someone gets a big suprise! After all, its the Christmas season. To quote a former chief pilot there as described by his roomate's girlfriend, "I didn't plan on firing anyone today, but one guy came in and before I knew what was happening I had fired him. Bad day for him, ... he he he." Now, here comes the funny part, he fired the roomate's girlfriend a few weeks later.

I highly recommend this airline to anyone willing to take a gamble. Eventually they will either have to improve their ways or shutdown. If they improve their ways you will get all the benefit of the fast movement because of the high amount of attrition! And each and every day you go to work you will experience the thrill and excitement of the life of a soap opera actor! The gossip of hearing about who was terminated and why, about Bob quitting and them not paying his vacation, about Diedra getting breast cancer then being fired, about Dawn publicly supporting the union and being fired, and the constant intrigue created by always wondering when you will be written off of the script! It was a gamble for anyone to go to Eastern Airlines in 1988 but the potential benefits were incredible! This could be your Eastern! Have some balls and Goooo---Jettttt!




Was this a sarcastic post?? LOL Its hard to tell because its lengthy. Most people write a sentence to prove a point but, the rest of the thesis is toward his/her main idea.

Pretty sure he is on our team. Ha!!

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1781809)
Pretty sure he is on our team. Ha!!

LOL right on. I vowed that I would never engage in bickering concerning any airline but this is far from an airline. I honestly have no words to describe the malicious business practices used here against its employees to gain a dime. I am not bashing, or was ever disciplined, or ever involved against anything there. But it boils my blood when people misinform potential new hires with misleading and groundless information. It is my goal to be as honest and transparent as possible without offending anyone unless that person offends me for my honest efforts :D

8hourrule 12-12-2014 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1781819)
Quote:





Originally Posted by 8hourrule


Pretty sure he is on our team. Ha!!




LOL right on. I vowed that I would never engage in bickering concerning any airline but this is far from an airline. I honestly have no words to describe the malicious business practices used here against its employees to gain a dime. I am not bashing, or was ever disciplined, or ever involved against anything there. But it boils my blood when people misinform potential new hires with misleading and groundless information. It is my goal to be as honest and transparent as possible without offending anyone unless that person offends me for my honest efforts

Word my man.

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1779846)
I dont think you can go from Gojet to tsa

Ok, here is a real life scenario that happened at an interview. I know this because I know one of the people at the panel.

Pilot shows up at a Compass interview and long story short, the panel found out he worked for GoJet ( not by some magic, it came up in the interview because the pilot disclosed it). I don't know the specifics but he was told by the panel that they would love to hire him but upper management would not allow it. The panel actually suggested the pilot seek legal actions.

The reason why you cannot flow from one airline to another like you are able to at RAH, is because of the difference in contracts between all three airlines. All three airlines need to operate, and so they don't want pilots to transfer every time one airline gets a better contract than the other. Plus, this is something that would need to be agreed upon by the Union MECs and Gojet is IBT whereas Compass and TSA are ALPA.

MartinC08 12-12-2014 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1782094)
Ok, here is a real life scenario that happened at an interview. I know this because I know one of the people at the panel.

Pilot shows up at a Compass interview and long story short, the panel found out he worked for GoJet ( not by some magic, it came up in the interview because the pilot disclosed it). I don't know the specifics but he was told by the panel that they would love to hire him but upper management would not allow it. The panel actually suggested the pilot seek legal actions.

The reason why you cannot flow from one airline to another like you are able to at RAH, is because of the difference in contracts between all three airlines. All three airlines need to operate, and so they don't want pilots to transfer every time one airline gets a better contract than the other. Plus, this is something that would need to be agreed upon by the Union MECs and Gojet is IBT whereas Compass and TSA are ALPA.

What if someone sucessfully interviewed at Gojet, didn't take the offer but wants to interview at TSA or compass?

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Concorde001 (Post 1775859)
Is this true or just joking?

The 2500TT upgrade reduction from 4500TT with 1000 in company credited to 2 for 1 up to 1000 is true.

However, think about this for a moment....

1. There were tons of FOs who were close already to the original 4500TT.
2. All those who came off the street Junior but with over 4500TT and were just waiting to get the 1000 in company cannot upgrade now
3. Senior FOs are supper happy but Junior FOs from other companies are ****ed because they were promised a quick upgrade and are now looking at three plus years.
4. This is a marketing scheme!!!!!!!!! If you don't get why, let me know and I'll break it down a bit more.
5. To Sum up; upgrades are still three plus years!!!!!! and you are going to work with a pilot group that is divided.

Einstein2014 12-12-2014 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1782099)
What if someone sucessfully interviewed at Gojet, didn't take the offer but wants to interview at TSA or compass?

That is fine. After I left, I kept getting interview invites for the TSA QCFO program.

Pilottim79 12-12-2014 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1782094)
Ok, here is a real life scenario that happened at an interview. I know this because I know one of the people at the panel.

Pilot shows up at a Compass interview and long story short, the panel found out he worked for GoJet ( not by some magic, it came up in the interview because the pilot disclosed it). I don't know the specifics but he was told by the panel that they would love to hire him but upper management would not allow it. The panel actually suggested the pilot seek legal actions.

The reason why you cannot flow from one airline to another like you are able to at RAH, is because of the difference in contracts between all three airlines. All three airlines need to operate, and so they don't want pilots to transfer every time one airline gets a better contract than the other. Plus, this is something that would need to be agreed upon by the Union MECs and Gojet is IBT whereas Compass and TSA are ALPA.

TSA cannot hire anyone currently employed at Go Jet. Quit and we will hire you tomorrow.

Freedom2 12-13-2014 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Einstein2014 (Post 1781767)
Was this a sarcastic post?? LOL Its hard to tell because its lengthy. Most people write a sentence to prove a point but, the rest of the thesis is toward his/her main idea.

I guess in this world of twitter I must learn to limit my posts to 140 characters. I'm from the northeast so sarcasm is more of a way of life than a writing style. I thought I was being very witty when I was writing the post but maybe the length drown out the message.

I'm guess I'm tired of hearing guys complain about Nogojet. There are the fools that go there without researching how bad it is and then there are the idiots who learn how bad it is and go anyway. They go there, make a bad joke and get fired and then they want to complain! I don't get that. Of course this site has always deleted negative posts about Nogojet until recently, so maybe there are people that just don't know.

What's the difference between a NoGoJet pilot and a pizza? A pizza can feed a family of 4. (Actually resulted in the teller being terminated. The question for you is, was he fired because it insulted the company, or did they feel they had to fire him because his jokes were so bad the company was embarrassed?)

Einstein2014 12-13-2014 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1782248)
I guess in this world of twitter I must learn to limit my posts to 140 characters. I'm from the northeast so sarcasm is more of a way of life than a writing style. I thought I was being very witty when I was writing the post but maybe the length drown out the message.

I'm guess I'm tired of hearing guys complain about Nogojet. There are the fools that go there without researching how bad it is and then there are the idiots who learn how bad it is and go anyway. They go there, make a bad joke and get fired and then they want to complain! I don't get that. Of course this site has always deleted negative posts about Nogojet until recently, so maybe there are people that just don't know.

What's the difference between a NoGoJet pilot and a pizza? A pizza can feed a family of 4. (Actually resulted in the teller being terminated. The question for you is, was he fired because it insulted the company, or did they feel they had to fire him because his jokes were so bad the company was embarrassed?)

HAHAHAHA !! Love it!

I am sure this hasn't been shutdown yet because the comments are constructive and accurate. There is not pilot bashing or wars about nonsense, just facts. If we keep it that way, more future applicants can truly take advantage and make a well informed decision. Keep it clean! LOL :)

bernouli 12-13-2014 03:55 PM

I got my vacation paid. I didn't call in sick during the last month and I got what was owed to me.

DryMotorBoatin 12-13-2014 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1782782)
I got my vacation paid. I didn't call in sick during the last month and I got what was owed to me.

Were so proud of you. You're hulas's wet dream.

bernouli 12-13-2014 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1782784)
Were so proud of you. You're hulas's wet dream.

You should be. I kept a job and then got a really good one.

DryMotorBoatin 12-13-2014 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1782788)
You should be. I kept a job and then got a really good one.

Not difficult when you're a chick. We still love ya though.

bernouli 12-13-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1782789)
Not difficult when you're a chick.

Hahaha. You're brilliant.

DryMotorBoatin 12-13-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1782793)
Hahaha. You're brilliant.

Thank you.

pnwchief22 12-13-2014 05:09 PM

Just read through some legal notices and retirement fund stuff from my Trans States Holdings enrollment; ironic since I left in there a long time ago and did not put $0.01 into the retirement program. I vividly recall our ground school instructor and check airman were out the door the same day we headed over to FSI for systems. That plus the teamsters presentation and I knew this place was in trouble.

8hourrule 12-13-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1782782)
I got my vacation paid. I didn't call in sick during the last month and I got what was owed to me.

Congrats. I never called in sick and didn't get mine. Awesome company. Gojet standard.

Whatmeworry 03-16-2015 09:00 PM

Ohhh crap... I WAS leaving Thursday to start class on the 23rd. Got an offer at XJT... Going there... Thanks for the info!!!

slats fail 03-17-2015 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1844246)
Ohhh crap... I WAS leaving Thursday to start class on the 23rd. Got an offer at XJT... Going there... Thanks for the info!!!

You do realize XJT is parking/transferring airframes to TSA, while G7 is gaining 7 aircraft don't you? Did you consider TSA? No offense, but you might want you're head examined.

Luv2Rotate 03-17-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by slats fail (Post 1844618)
You do realize XJT is parking/transferring airframes to TSA, while G7 is gaining 7 aircraft don't you? Did you consider TSA? No offense, but you might want you're head examined.

TSA yes but definitely not GoJets...

Cgo John 03-17-2015 10:02 PM

I went to Gojet. The one thing GJ and I agree on is that I need my head examined. I combined ignorance and insanity and ended up at Gojet.

I did hear a funny joke one day at GJ; What is the difference between a GJ pilot and a pizza? A pizza can feed a family of 4. The guy who told the joke was fired at the next break.

ComAirColonel 03-17-2015 10:18 PM

I suggested that on takeoff, instead of saying "Set Thrust" they should say "Go----Jet" and for landing they should say "Wow-Jet". I could not even get a smile. I found that you don't make any suggestions on how to improve anything there because the guys in charge take it as a personal insult. Being at GJ is like being in 7th grade again and you have to walk past the 8th grade bully who has been king of the 8th grade for the past 3 years. At least at GJ you don't have any lunch money they can take. (No cancelation pay, etc!)

Whatmeworry 03-18-2015 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by slats fail (Post 1844618)
You do realize XJT is parking/transferring airframes to TSA, while G7 is gaining 7 aircraft don't you? Did you consider TSA? No offense, but you might want you're head examined.

Yea well, I'm taking my chances with XJT... Thanks for your concern but XJT is going to be just fine.

Coneydog 03-18-2015 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1844953)
Yea well, I'm taking my chances with XJT... Thanks for your concern but XJT is going to be just fine.

You're going to sit reserve for a very long time.

FaceBiten 03-18-2015 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1844953)
Yea well, I'm taking my chances with XJT... Thanks for your concern but XJT is going to be just fine.

You will probably join the long ranks of former XJT pilots now at different regionals after you realize your mistake. Congrats. Hope you at least live in a junior base.

slats fail 03-18-2015 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1844953)
Yea well, I'm taking my chances with XJT... Thanks for your concern but XJT is going to be just fine.

And you're basing that on...?

Whatmeworry 03-19-2015 09:14 AM

Live near a one leg base... Yes!! Overall good group of pilots and good company with a good contract. Im just not going to chase knee jerk reactions to the environment right now. I believe things will be fine for xjt, maybe not PSA or tsa growth right now but everything I've heard is those companies are having trouble fulfilling those large contracts.... XJT will be fine!!!

TalkTurkey 03-19-2015 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1844953)
Yea well, I'm taking my chances with XJT... Thanks for your concern but XJT is going to be just fine.

Sure they will, until the end of 2016.

TalkTurkey 03-19-2015 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1845736)
Live near a one leg base... Yes!! Overall good group of pilots and good company with a good contract. Im just not going to chase knee jerk reactions to the environment right now. I believe things will be fine for xjt, maybe not PSA or tsa growth right now but everything I've heard is those companies are having trouble fulfilling those large contracts.... XJT will be fine!!!

As far as PSA goes, they're doing so good with hiring that American is giving them an additional 24 (I think on the number) brand new stretched RJs. No problems hiring guys there. Not sure about TSA.

Whatmeworry 03-19-2015 01:52 PM

Yea and the samething was said about PSA before they "took the deal"!!

TalkTurkey 03-19-2015 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Whatmeworry (Post 1845905)
Yea and the samething was said about PSA before they "took the deal"!!

Right. Yes I know. That's why they got MORE planes. This is getting perpetually redundant now.

Whatmeworry 03-19-2015 09:23 PM

Do you have any idea what I was referring to "the deal"?

TheGoldenJet 03-30-2015 07:59 AM

Whether anyone cares or not...

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/36158-gojet-to-start-delta-crj900-operations-on-june-4

55Uniform 04-03-2015 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by TheGoldenJet (Post 1852785)

New planes that's nice but how are they going to staff them when you hear the classes are almost empty?

FlyingKat 04-03-2015 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by 55Uniform (Post 1855359)
New planes that's nice but how are they going to staff them when you hear the classes are almost empty?

Lately they have been canceling Gojet flights with no crews on the United side and running TSA flights in their place.


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