Changing the Beard Rule
07-09-2019, 03:47 AM
#201
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Beard rule has been dropped not only in Europa Land but obviously also in the Middle East.
So.....explain to me how we can fly with eyeglasses.
So.....explain to me how we can fly with eyeglasses.
As with the other gentleman, please feel free to demonstrate how European or Middle East O2 masks form a perfect seal over a beard that will not allow ANY toxic smoke to enter. It takes very little smoke to incapacitate a person, even trace amounts slipping through the porous seal between a bearded face and a mask are all that are needed.
07-09-2019, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Excellent contribution. So you are under the belief that exposure to toxic smoke in a confined space is a totally acceptable level of risk? Please, do elucidate your reasoning for such a stance.
07-09-2019, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
I suppose it’s that time of year again to rehash the painfully obvious. The requirement to shave has nothing, zero, zip, nada, zilch to do with appearance. It has to do with the safety of your passengers, in a smoke event your mask had better have a good seal. As a former firefighter I would not want to put my life at risk for sake of having a “neatly trimmed beard”, as a pilot I refuse to gamble the lives in the back on it.
07-09-2019, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Excellent contribution. So you are under the belief that exposure to toxic smoke in a confined space is a totally acceptable level of risk? Please, do elucidate your reasoning for such a stance.
07-09-2019, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
No they don’t, and when a pilot goes unconscious from smoke inhalation and slumps over the controls forcing an unrecoverable dive they will have to answer for why they chose to expose their pax to that risk. I suppose the grieving families will be comforted to hear that the pilot looked very handsome prior to the crash.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4825104
07-09-2019, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
“Timmy’s parents don’t make him wear his seat belt, why should I have to!”
As with the other gentleman, please feel free to demonstrate how European or Middle East O2 masks form a perfect seal over a beard that will not allow ANY toxic smoke to enter. It takes very little smoke to incapacitate a person, even trace amounts slipping through the porous seal between a bearded face and a mask are all that are needed.
As with the other gentleman, please feel free to demonstrate how European or Middle East O2 masks form a perfect seal over a beard that will not allow ANY toxic smoke to enter. It takes very little smoke to incapacitate a person, even trace amounts slipping through the porous seal between a bearded face and a mask are all that are needed.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
Now......do you REALLY think that Canadian and European and ME aviation authorities just woke up one day and decided to allow it?
Especially EASA is tightly regulated and I mean diamond in a goats @ss tightly regulated.
They’ve also dropped the O2 req above FL250 by the way...OH THE HORROR!!!!
And Diet Coke causes cancer according to the State of California.
07-09-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
Now......do you REALLY think that Canadian and European and ME aviation authorities just woke up one day and decided to allow it?
Especially EASA is tightly regulated and I mean diamond in a goats @ss tightly regulated.
They’ve also dropped the O2 req above FL250 by the way...OH THE HORROR!!!!
And Diet Coke causes cancer according to the State of California.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
Now......do you REALLY think that Canadian and European and ME aviation authorities just woke up one day and decided to allow it?
Especially EASA is tightly regulated and I mean diamond in a goats @ss tightly regulated.
They’ve also dropped the O2 req above FL250 by the way...OH THE HORROR!!!!
And Diet Coke causes cancer according to the State of California.
07-09-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
Now......do you REALLY think that Canadian and European and ME aviation authorities just woke up one day and decided to allow it?
Especially EASA is tightly regulated and I mean diamond in a goats @ss tightly regulated.
They’ve also dropped the O2 req above FL250 by the way...OH THE HORROR!!!!
And Diet Coke causes cancer according to the State of California.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180921140157.htm
Now......do you REALLY think that Canadian and European and ME aviation authorities just woke up one day and decided to allow it?
Especially EASA is tightly regulated and I mean diamond in a goats @ss tightly regulated.
They’ve also dropped the O2 req above FL250 by the way...OH THE HORROR!!!!
And Diet Coke causes cancer according to the State of California.
Feel free at any time to post an actual response regarding facial seal during smoke events and how a bearded individual can seal well enough to keep the toxic smoke from entering. Any example of a professional fire department allowing their firefighters to enter a working fire with beards would also suffice.
I’ll hang up and listen to your response.
07-09-2019, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Congrats Einstein, you successfully ignored everything I said and knee jerked to your well rehearsed stock response. You will note that I never once mentioned a lack of oxygen delivery due to beards, what I clearly stated was the lack of seal in a smoke event.
Feel free at any time to post an actual response regarding facial seal during smoke events and how a bearded individual can seal well enough to keep the toxic smoke from entering. Any example of a professional fire department allowing their firefighters to enter a working fire with beards would also suffice.
I’ll hang up and listen to your response.
Feel free at any time to post an actual response regarding facial seal during smoke events and how a bearded individual can seal well enough to keep the toxic smoke from entering. Any example of a professional fire department allowing their firefighters to enter a working fire with beards would also suffice.
I’ll hang up and listen to your response.
You obviously didn’t read the study. They simulated smoke conditions.
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