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10-15-2018 | 08:31 AM
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10-15-2018 | 01:26 PM
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I was the FO in LWS one morning when a nonrev FA informed us that the gate agents weren't letting on a SWA Jumpseater. I ran in, told them to put the delay on me if we were late, but to get him on. I used the restroom while in the terminal then went back out. We blocked out 1 min late... I got a call the next day from CP's office. That's Horizon for sure. I was asked specifically about the jumpseater. I claimed the delay was because I felt ill before push and had to use the airport bathroom, and just happened to see the SWA guy when I went in. I could hear the defeat in CP's voice after that answer.
10-15-2018 | 01:35 PM
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Bonus points if said person was involved in active combat.
10-15-2018 | 05:58 PM
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no. The military does not get a monopoly on leather jackets with fuzzy collars. If a civilian wants to look like a douche he’s free to as well.
10-15-2018 | 11:05 PM
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Prima donna wanna-be fighter pilots trying to tell young pilots what to wear, I tell you what...
10-16-2018 | 05:06 AM
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That's pretty lame. Most, if not all, civilian pilots back in the golden age of flying wore leather jackets with warm fuzzy liners. Because it worked. Military experience and combat had not a damned thing to do with wearing a leather jacket when flying. Any pilot who might experience weather or temperature extremes will be well prepared if they're wearing a leather flying jacket. Because that's what those jackets were designed for. Flying. Not military flying, but *flying*.
Prima donna wanna-be fighter pilots trying to tell young pilots what to wear, I tell you what...
Prima donna wanna-be fighter pilots trying to tell young pilots what to wear, I tell you what...
So a modern military member wearing one (depending on time, place, and context) isn't necessarily "douchy", might just be enjoying a bit of living history that was issued to him. Same for a civilian, although wearing one with modern unit patches around an airport might hint of attempted valor theft.
10-16-2018 | 05:34 AM
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Meh.....I would never do it, but some civilians adorn their jackets with patches as a tribute. If the patch is something that signifies an accomplishment or milestone, I would agree with you. I still have my dad’s squadron patches and various items. I would consider sewing one of his “phantom” patches on my flight bag because the F-4 is an awesome plane and I love it (but I certainly never flew one) I would never wear one of his ribbons or sew his “400 carrier landings” patch on, because I didn’t earn it. In my mind, there’s a difference. Not trying to start a mil versus civ argument, but “thinking military stuff is cool” isn’t the same as “stolen valor”. Not to say that it’s not tacky to sport patches you had no involvement with, for sure.
10-16-2018 | 06:23 AM
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Meh.....I would never do it, but some civilians adorn their jackets with patches as a tribute. If the patch is something that signifies an accomplishment or milestone, I would agree with you. I still have my dad’s squadron patches and various items. I would consider sewing one of his “phantom” patches on my flight bag because the F-4 is an awesome plane and I love it (but I certainly never flew one) I would never wear one of his ribbons or sew his “400 carrier landings” patch on, because I didn’t earn it. In my mind, there’s a difference. Not trying to start a mil versus civ argument, but “thinking military stuff is cool” isn’t the same as “stolen valor”. Not to say that it’s not tacky to sport patches you had no involvement with, for sure.
20-something Rocker-chick with piercings wearing a jacket with an F-14 patch at the FBO: Not poser.
40- ish dude with F-35 patch, dockers, loafers, crew-cut and 'Bans: Might be a poser. Or an F-35 pilot.
These are actual real-world examples observed by me recently.
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