Tool of the day
06-28-2012, 06:43 AM
#1772
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
For a New York controller she sure went easy on him.
I've seen them dish out alot more for alot less.
Remember that idiot who ditched out over the beach in Long Island after watching Flying Alaska on the Discovery channel? Think it was about a year ago, wonder what happened to him.
I've seen them dish out alot more for alot less.
Remember that idiot who ditched out over the beach in Long Island after watching Flying Alaska on the Discovery channel? Think it was about a year ago, wonder what happened to him.
At least his airsick passenger didn't make a mess on the carpet though.
06-28-2012, 07:44 AM
#1775
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
This guy!!
EWR ATC - YouTube
This will shock you...how are guys like this allowed to even get pilots licenses?
EWR ATC - YouTube
This will shock you...how are guys like this allowed to even get pilots licenses?
That's too funny, thanks for the laughs! She was actually very polite to this idiot. It sounds like this guy is not instrument rated but was getting trafic separation info from the controller.
Did you hear the Delta guy say..."good luck" to her, when he left? I thought that was pretty good too.
06-28-2012, 09:16 AM
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Re. the above AA 2 Hvy incident; I liked it, ie. I support AA 2 Heavy. I'm guessing they were in a 767, the crosswind limitation for that airplane is 29kts. and the winds were reported at about 90 degrees off runway headding, gusting to 35kts, they -cannot- legally accept that runway for landing.
We don't know what their fuel state was, but perhaps they had been holding for a while, and then got these winds (illgal for landing) and had already requested runway 31. I beileve he allueded to that when I heard AA 2 say, "I told you if we didn't get runway 31, we would have to declare an emergency..."
They declared the emergency, and did what they needed to do to land safely.
I think the "Tool" was the ATC guy, who 1. didn't give them RW 31, and then 2. didn't seem to understand what that means, when a pilot declares an emergency, and kept trying to give them vectors. The crew had to TELL HIM, "We HAVE declared and emergency, 3 TIMES! Now get everyone out of our way, we are landing!"
Bravo.
Never forget, ATC is down there, only because WE are up there, not vice versa. They are there to SERVE US, we are not up there to make their job easier by landing on runways with winds out of limits.
Oh, and they have never lost a controller in an aiplane accident...they still get to clock out and go home, every day.
We don't know what their fuel state was, but perhaps they had been holding for a while, and then got these winds (illgal for landing) and had already requested runway 31. I beileve he allueded to that when I heard AA 2 say, "I told you if we didn't get runway 31, we would have to declare an emergency..."
They declared the emergency, and did what they needed to do to land safely.
I think the "Tool" was the ATC guy, who 1. didn't give them RW 31, and then 2. didn't seem to understand what that means, when a pilot declares an emergency, and kept trying to give them vectors. The crew had to TELL HIM, "We HAVE declared and emergency, 3 TIMES! Now get everyone out of our way, we are landing!"
Bravo.
Never forget, ATC is down there, only because WE are up there, not vice versa. They are there to SERVE US, we are not up there to make their job easier by landing on runways with winds out of limits.
Oh, and they have never lost a controller in an aiplane accident...they still get to clock out and go home, every day.
06-28-2012, 10:07 AM
#1780
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Re. the above AA 2 Hvy incident; I liked it, ie. I support AA 2 Heavy. I'm guessing they were in a 767, the crosswind limitation for that airplane is 29kts. and the winds were reported at about 90 degrees off runway headding, gusting to 35kts, they -cannot- legally accept that runway for landing.
We don't know what their fuel state was, but perhaps they had been holding for a while, and then got these winds (illgal for landing) and had already requested runway 31. I beileve he allueded to that when I heard AA 2 say, "I told you if we didn't get runway 31, we would have to declare an emergency..."
They declared the emergency, and did what they needed to do to land safely.
I think the "Tool" was the ATC guy, who 1. didn't give them RW 31, and then 2. didn't seem to understand what that means, when a pilot declares an emergency, and kept trying to give them vectors. The crew had to TELL HIM, "We HAVE declared and emergency, 3 TIMES! Now get everyone out of our way, we are landing!"
Bravo.
Never forget, ATC is down there, only because WE are up there, not vice versa. They are there to SERVE US, we are not up there to make their job easier by landing on runways with winds out of limits.
Oh, and they have never lost a controller in an aiplane accident...they still get to clock out and go home, every day.
We don't know what their fuel state was, but perhaps they had been holding for a while, and then got these winds (illgal for landing) and had already requested runway 31. I beileve he allueded to that when I heard AA 2 say, "I told you if we didn't get runway 31, we would have to declare an emergency..."
They declared the emergency, and did what they needed to do to land safely.
I think the "Tool" was the ATC guy, who 1. didn't give them RW 31, and then 2. didn't seem to understand what that means, when a pilot declares an emergency, and kept trying to give them vectors. The crew had to TELL HIM, "We HAVE declared and emergency, 3 TIMES! Now get everyone out of our way, we are landing!"
Bravo.
Never forget, ATC is down there, only because WE are up there, not vice versa. They are there to SERVE US, we are not up there to make their job easier by landing on runways with winds out of limits.
Oh, and they have never lost a controller in an aiplane accident...they still get to clock out and go home, every day.
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