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Columbia 04-24-2013 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by TheFly (Post 1391454)
TOTD, the pax sitting next to me (I was JS'ing) who was wearing a t-shirt with cutoff sleeves and armpit hair fanning out in all directions. :eek:
Just nasty.

Like Buckwheat in a headlock.

mmaviator 04-24-2013 04:22 PM

Not that toolish but the FA who said 'Ladies and cats' during her announcement. She caught her self and no it wasn't 'gents' if your thinking that.

Stetson20 04-25-2013 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1397385)
Ahh, the infamous JW eh?

Yes! God, what a tool!

YLpilot 04-30-2013 07:32 PM

The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

80ktsClamp 04-30-2013 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 1401176)
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

Your buddy is acting tool-ish, too. Showing that documentation is required, uniform or not. A smart alec response when asked to do what is required is not the best way to hitch a free ride.

Seggy 04-30-2013 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 1401176)
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

The Delta Captain acted appropriately. Your friend needs a "refresher" course in jumpseating it sounds like.

biigD 04-30-2013 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1401187)
Your buddy is acting tool-ish, too. Showing that documentation is required, uniform or not.

I agree. Sorry YLpilot - but your buddy was a tool for making that comment. He should have that documentation out and ready to go every time. I know it's hit or miss out there, but why put the Captain in the position to have to ask?

I'm not saying it warranted kicking your buddy off (although I personally think it was an effective way to make a point), but a little lesson on JS etiquette was deserved at a minimum.

ShyGuy 04-30-2013 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by YLpilot (Post 1401176)
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.

The tool here was your buddy, not the DL CA. The response from the CA was spot on, and I envision it as being said spontaneously without missing a beat.

450knotOffice 04-30-2013 08:19 PM

I have to agree. While I happen to find it a bit OTT, and most captains will be happy with the JS pass and one's badge, the official requirement is for the JS rider to present his pass, his badge, his license, and his Medical. I always have them out when I ask for a JS, and I've been doing this for more than two decades now.

Your friend should have kept his mouth shut. He learned a life-lesson (hopefully).

gloopy 05-01-2013 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1401197)
I agree. Sorry YLpilot - but your buddy was a tool for making that comment. He should have that documentation out and ready to go every time. I know it's hit or miss out there, but why put the Captain in the position to have to ask?

I'm not saying it warranted kicking your buddy off (although I personally think it was an effective way to make a point), but a little lesson on JS etiquette was deserved at a minimum.

Yep. Especially if the guy in question was going to ride up front, or even if it was a possibility. Every time someone doesn't check all that is another fairly small risk but with severe consequences for one of the biggest and most necessary "perks" of the job. What's to gain by "keeping it cazh"? Sometimes the wrong people get that far. The document check could be the only way to catch it and it takes 10 seconds.

Props to the Captain for smacking down the little entitled smart alec with asymetrical buthurt. I hope he still would have let him ride if he got the hint, apologized and admitted his mistake though.


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