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Old 03-26-2015 | 06:16 AM
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Because what Joe Schmo passenger knows what an APU bleed MEL is, much less what a cross bleed start means? Gotta keep those PA's simple usually.


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Old 03-26-2015 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CanoePilot
How is that tooley other than a little long winded?
I would guess he was referring to the use of technical jargon or lack of "useful/meaningful" information to the average flyer.

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Old 03-26-2015 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
I would guess he was referring to the use of technical jargon or lack of "useful/meaningful" information to the average flyer.

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Yeah, if he's going to talk about the MEL in a PA, he should have included the MEL number, category, and expiration date. And why didn't he read the cross bleed start procedures over the PA as well?

Reminds me of a trip I had a couple weeks ago, the F/A's were having trouble getting the cabin lights to dim for the long night flight. A passenger complained to one of the F/A's, "I'm a retired FAA Maintenance Inspector! Tell the Captain he needs to come back here and FIX THESE LIGHTS!"

Um...Yeah...I'll be right there, just let me finish my ATP Home Study Course first, then I'll start pulling all these circuit breakers, and then....

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Old 03-26-2015 | 07:48 AM
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Me. On the PA. I think I was trying to tell the passengers it would be a little bumpy, or maybe it was a little choppy? It came out "a little chumpy". So I laughed. Still on the PA.

Confidence was high...
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Old 03-26-2015 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Me. On the PA. I think I was trying to tell the passengers it would be a little bumpy, or maybe it was a little choppy? It came out "a little chumpy". So I laughed. Still on the PA.

Confidence was high...
You should have followed that up with,

"Aw CRAP, look at the SIZE of that thing! We're SCREWED!"
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Old 03-26-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Because what Joe Schmo passenger knows what an APU bleed MEL is, much less what a cross bleed start means? Gotta keep those PA's simple usually.
On the other hand, what if you're going to an airport where there are a lot of Boeing employees, people who know the airplane and/or the systems?

Its better not to use technical jargon, especially if you use the wrong jargon. I once heard a Captain describe a problem on the PA then, during the subsequent approach, do something completely erroneous for the problem he described.

In the end, it turned out he had a different problem but used the wrong technical term to describe it. His actions were exactly correct for the problem he actually had. That taught me to say something along the lines of:

"Ladies and gentlemen, we have encountered a mechanical issue and are dealing with it using our standard operating procedures. Thank you for your patience."

That's really all you need to say.

The Captain in question might have said:

"Due to an inoperative APU, we are unable to use the air-conditioning system at this time. Once we start an engine, we will be able to cool the cabin. Thank you for your patience."

Technical jargon sometimes tends to frighten nervous fliers because they don't know what you're talking about and can't appreciate how minor the problem at hand may or may not be. They always default to "ITS SERIOUS."

The KISS principle always seems to work best.
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Old 03-26-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
The KISS principle always seems to work best.
I guess I don't fully understand this. Last time I tried the KISS method, the flight attendant really didn't appreciate it.
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Old 03-26-2015 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
I guess I don't fully understand this. Last time I tried the KISS method, the flight attendant really didn't appreciate it.
Try a male one next time
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Old 03-26-2015 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
I guess I don't fully understand this. Last time I tried the KISS method, the flight attendant really didn't appreciate it.
If you tried to kiss a flight attendant, then you definitely didn't "Keep It Simple Stupid."
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Old 03-26-2015 | 11:40 AM
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Words that should never be used during PAs:
  • Bleed
  • Crossbleed
  • Stall
  • Stewardess
  • Failure
  • Maybe
  • Rape
  • Hi Jack
  • Cervical Warts
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