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04-13-2015 | 02:23 PM
#6041
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
04-13-2015 | 02:32 PM
#6042
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From: Sippin' at the Troubadour
04-13-2015 | 07:39 PM
#6045
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The F.O. walks around ignoring open doors, open access panels, attached ground power cords and attached fueling equipment.
The ground crew member at SWA completes the walk around after all aircraft servicing is complete. During this later time frame he/she is able to assess that no damage was inflicted by vehicles in very close proximity to the aircraft and all service doors and access panels are secure before push back begins. It really does work better from a practicality standpoint.
04-13-2015 | 07:45 PM
#6046
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When the F.O. goes out and conducts a walk around after arriving at the aircraft or on a thru flight, I don't think they are "just going through the motions", there is just so much that hasn't happened yet.
The F.O. walks around ignoring open doors, open access panels, attached ground power cords and attached fueling equipment.
The ground crew member at SWA completes the walk around after all aircraft servicing is complete. During this later time frame he/she is able to assess that no damage was inflicted by vehicles in very close proximity to the aircraft and all service doors and access panels are secure before push back begins. It really does work better from a practicality standpoint.
The F.O. walks around ignoring open doors, open access panels, attached ground power cords and attached fueling equipment.
The ground crew member at SWA completes the walk around after all aircraft servicing is complete. During this later time frame he/she is able to assess that no damage was inflicted by vehicles in very close proximity to the aircraft and all service doors and access panels are secure before push back begins. It really does work better from a practicality standpoint.
04-13-2015 | 07:59 PM
#6047
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
04-13-2015 | 08:07 PM
#6048
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
When the F.O. goes out and conducts a walk around after arriving at the aircraft or on a thru flight, I don't think they are "just going through the motions", there is just so much that hasn't happened yet.
The F.O. walks around ignoring open doors, open access panels, attached ground power cords and attached fueling.
The F.O. walks around ignoring open doors, open access panels, attached ground power cords and attached fueling.
Do you express your opinions of their ignorance of their walk around? And who would your F/O deem to be the TOD with such a tenet?
04-13-2015 | 08:12 PM
#6049
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Notice how no other company has followed WN's model for rampers doing walkarounds. If you're the only one doing it, there's a reason why.
I am friends with a WN ramper... I get texts fairly frequently with a picture of what he saw on the walkaround not understanding what he's looking at and if it's a problem (yes he does bring it to the crew's attention- usually they blow him off).
Letting non-pilots or mechanics inspect something that they don't really know how to inspect? Awful idea.
Sure, some guys just go through the motions, but the majority understand that they have skin in the game.
I am friends with a WN ramper... I get texts fairly frequently with a picture of what he saw on the walkaround not understanding what he's looking at and if it's a problem (yes he does bring it to the crew's attention- usually they blow him off).
Letting non-pilots or mechanics inspect something that they don't really know how to inspect? Awful idea.
Sure, some guys just go through the motions, but the majority understand that they have skin in the game.
04-13-2015 | 08:22 PM
#6050
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You honestly believe that a ramper brings up a potentially abnormal component of the aircraft and it is blown off?
The push back driver that is in direct communication with the crew is the one responsible for the walk around. That person directly communicates that the aircraft has been inspected and ready for pushback.
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