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Old 04-17-2015, 02:48 PM
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In defense of FFB, a lot of that was the culture of that particular company that was imposed upon him when he was an FO...especially if he was at a long standing base located somewhere in between Louisiana and New Mexico. The CRM culture at that base was less than non-existent.
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyone View Post
Sorry FFB, apologies etc are nice. But to take that attitude at anytime during a flight is just plain unacceptable. Perhaps the next time that f/o thinks something isn't right, he just might keep his mouth shut, thinking he will once again be berated by his know it all captain. Perhaps a remedial CRM Initial course is the way to go for you. There is never a place for any arrogance in a modern aircraft in this day and age. If you had to fly several more legs with him, you probably lost him as an asset for the remainder of the rotation. You need to seek him out and apologize for not just not knowing basic jet engine winter ops, but also for your behavior as a captain.

As a very old timer here, I continually am amazed at the knowledge my f/o's might have of some obscure procedure or new company bulletin. And most of the time my response is, YGTBSM, wow I didn't know that.

But the fact you actually made the time to call him out as a TOTD on APC says a lot. Time for some serious CRM reflection.
I'm starting to wonder if y'all read my initial post in its entirety. My initial reaction WAS "Ok, then let's turn it on." Admittedly, I didn't delve into details further in the initial post (though I did in subsequent posts) but next, when parked at the gate I said "we have a few minutes, lets find that in the book. I haven't been doing it that way." It was not to be found. After more thorough investigation, I found and admitted (many timea over) my error.

Now, without getting into further details that may embarrass anyone besides myself, this FO is a 'known quantity' at my airline (and others) with a history of doing things 'his way'. I know some of you have flown with guys like that. It can wear on you after a multi-day trip.

Final thought: I was wrong on the facts. Whats more, as the captain I handled the situation poorly and there is no excuse for that. I understand, admit and hope to learn from those errors. I hope this can be my final post on this subject.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
Besides, my Delta buds monitor forums like this for Delta newhires or potential newhires to let their guard down and show the world who they truly are, not who they wanted Delta HR to think of them. FFB has shown his true stripes over the issue and I'm sure that Delta HR is now aware.
Maybe your "Delta buds" could spend more time self policing the people on there that ALREADY work for DAL, slipped through the cracks, and NOW paint their company in a negative light with their frequent inflammatory postings.

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Also, his job offer is conditionally safe on the same terms.
And if a message board moderator had that kind of control over Delta's hiring, well, that would be seriously fornicated.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
I'm starting to wonder if y'all read my initial post in its entirety. My initial reaction WAS "Ok, then let's turn it on." Admittedly, I didn't delve into details further in the initial post (though I did in subsequent posts) but next, when parked at the gate I said "we have a few minutes, lets find that in the book. I haven't been doing it that way." It was not to be found. After more thorough investigation, I found and admitted (many timea over) my error.

Now, without getting into further details that may embarrass anyone besides myself, this FO is a 'known quantity' at my airline (and others) with a history of doing things 'his way'. I know some of you have flown with guys like that. It can wear on you after a multi-day trip.

Final thought: I was wrong on the facts. Whats more, as the captain I handled the situation poorly and there is no excuse for that. I understand, admit and hope to learn from those errors. I hope this can be my final post on this subject.
Good job. And better further explanation. The best defense is knowing SOPs backwards and forwards, always.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyone View Post
Good job. And better further explanation. The best defense is knowing SOPs backwards and forwards, always.
I don't disagree with you there! Cheers.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
He only owned it after he was called out. And only because he's in fear of losing Delta.
Do you have a personal bias?
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
He only owned it after he was called out. And only because he's in fear of losing Delta.
I did what was right because it was the right thing to do. Period. Don't think for a minute that forum trolls or keyboard warriors have any sway over how I conduct myself. I don't know who you are or what your beef is, but I am through engaging with you fegelein.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
I did what was right because it was the right thing to do. Period. Don't think for a minute that forum trolls or keyboard warriors have any sway over how I conduct myself. I don't know who you are or what your beef is, but I am through engaging with you fegelein.
Read some of his other posts, he pushes the edge of TOS flame baiting.
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Old 04-17-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
He only owned it after he was called out. And only because he's in fear of losing Delta.
You know that for a fact? Or you're bidding for Tool of the Year material? Give it a rest, chump.
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Old 04-17-2015, 05:59 PM
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