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05-18-2015 | 06:48 AM
#6232
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From: 320A
[QUOTE=SayAlt;1882635]Irrelevant. No, it doesn't, unless you are a gazillion-mile FF member. Besides which surfing the internet was not going to help in this situation.
Yes I guess the internet is only for surfing.Silly me I thought you can also text and send messages to people and try to get help.
Yes I guess the internet is only for surfing.Silly me I thought you can also text and send messages to people and try to get help.
05-18-2015 | 10:57 AM
#6233
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Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
I'll nominate the jump seater I just had. We were given a direct to off a heading after climbing through a higher altitude. He spoke up and told us we weren't direct while still climbing to that altitude. If you're going to backseat drive when we're sharing our cockpit with you, at least be right.
05-18-2015 | 11:25 AM
#6234
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: It's hot out here.
I'll nominate the jump seater I just had. We were given a direct to off a heading after climbing through a higher altitude. He spoke up and told us we weren't direct while still climbing to that altitude. If you're going to backseat drive when we're sharing our cockpit with you, at least be right.
The way I understand your statement it was something like this:
"Boozer 1234, cleared direct ABCD after reaching FL350."
If this is the case, doesn't that mean ATC expects you to continue the climb on the present heading and then turn direct after reaching the specified altitude?
If this is not the case, I am not understanding your scenario.
05-18-2015 | 11:31 AM
#6235
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From: A320 Left seat
Just out of curiosity, what was the clearance?
The way I understand your statement it was something like this:
"Boozer 1234, cleared direct ABCD after reaching FL350."
If this is the case, doesn't that mean ATC expects you to continue the climb on the present heading and then turn direct after reaching the specified altitude?
If this is not the case, I am not understanding your scenario.
The way I understand your statement it was something like this:
"Boozer 1234, cleared direct ABCD after reaching FL350."
If this is the case, doesn't that mean ATC expects you to continue the climb on the present heading and then turn direct after reaching the specified altitude?
If this is not the case, I am not understanding your scenario.
I had to read it twice but that's what I gathered the second time.
05-18-2015 | 11:31 AM
#6236
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: FDX 767 FO
Just out of curiosity, what was the clearance?
The way I understand your statement it was something like this:
"Boozer 1234, cleared direct ABCD after reaching FL350."
If this is the case, doesn't that mean ATC expects you to continue the climb on the present heading and then turn direct after reaching the specified altitude?
If this is not the case, I am not understanding your scenario.
The way I understand your statement it was something like this:
"Boozer 1234, cleared direct ABCD after reaching FL350."
If this is the case, doesn't that mean ATC expects you to continue the climb on the present heading and then turn direct after reaching the specified altitude?
If this is not the case, I am not understanding your scenario.
05-18-2015 | 11:47 AM
#6238
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From: Road construction signholder
I think you may be a tad touchy. I always tell any jumpseater to speak up if unsure of anything including clearances. Most stay quiet but occasionally they might ask about a clearance. That is what I want them to do.
Unless he had an obnoxious attitude it seems like he was just trying to be a team player. But I wasn't there so perhaps not.
Unless he had an obnoxious attitude it seems like he was just trying to be a team player. But I wasn't there so perhaps not.
05-18-2015 | 12:16 PM
#6239
Stuck Mic
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I'll nominate the jump seater I just had. We were given a direct to off a heading after climbing through a higher altitude. He spoke up and told us we weren't direct while still climbing to that altitude. If you're going to backseat drive when we're sharing our cockpit with you, at least be right.
Instead you could check with ATC and verify the clearance and see what they really wanted.
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