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#8701
I really didn't think this would be controversial. But obviously the short crowd have to try to prove they are better aviators than a doctor and bring out the insults!

Yep. My experience asking a few too.
#8702
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Then why do they occasionally ask aircraft to try to contact other aircraft...or check frequency readability and signal strength. (Most guys have no clue what that is and just say 5 by 5 if they can hear it.
Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.
Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.
#8703
And here you go. We need to get Terry Tate to fix anybody that says "blaahhhkeeeddd" or any other toolish behavior. He would be a great asset to any flight crew!
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I'm showing my age - those commercials were from 2003 and I thought it was 5 years ago.
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You just made my case. If they want help, they will ask for it. Nine times out of ten, if it takes 3 calls to get a reply from an aircraft it's because the pilots were talking to each other about how to bid, contract negotiations, etc., not by being blocked. Saying "blocked" could actually block the controllers second or third attempt to contact the aircraft.
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From: Cockpit speaker volume knob set to eleven.
Commuting to work and the guy ahead of me puts his guitar case on the belt. We go through and TSA pulls his case aside. They go open it up and hold up a full size saber in a scabbard. Not sure if he made his flight.
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
The TSA gets a lot of grief. Especially from us. But here's a perfect example that in fact they do improve the safety of our flights. What a numbnut!
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#8708
Had this happen the other day. In a busy high sector the Capt I was with said "blocked" 7 times in less than 30 seconds, blocking the controller multiple times. The controller finally had to tell everyone to "standby" so he could contact the aircraft which was a foreign carrier. The Capt then remarked to me how guys should wait before talking on a busy freq. What a douche!
#8709
New nominee: The DL guy the other night landing on 28L at SFO who was advised by Tower while on final approach to "keep it rolling through the intersection, I've got two departures on the 1s."
(For those who are unfamiliar, 1L/R intersect with 28L/R at SFO. The 1s are typically used for departures while crossing traffic lands on the 28s. Anyone who's been to SFO before will realize that common courtesy dictates you let the airplane roll through the runway intersection, even if your gate might be in Terminals 1 or 2, necessitating a bit of a back-taxi on A or B in order to get to your gate. If you slowly roll through the intersection, you block departing traffic on both 1L and 1R, and usually both runways are in heavy use by departures.)
Anyhow, said DL pilot ground to a halt right in the middle of the 1L/ 28L intersection. He obviously wanted the shortest route to his gate, and the heck with anyone else. The exchange went like this:
Tower: "DL ___, I said keep it moving! You're blocking two departures!"
DL: "Well, we're going to the 50 gates right here." (He didn't want to add another couple hundred feet to his taxi.)
Tower: "I realize that sir but I told you to keep it rolling!"
DL: (Still immobile on the runway): "OK, stand by...what taxiway did you want us to exit on?"
Tower: "I don't care sir, just get off the runway and contact Ground on point eight...ahh, it's too late now. Skywest ___ and Virgin ___, sorry, gonna have to get you out after the next pair of arrivals. DL____, next time you land here, keep it rolling like I told you."
DL: "Ahhh... roger that." Finally he found the thrust levers and exited the intersection.
We sat there on 1L watching this in disbelief. I've never seen a 121 crew just stop smack in the middle of an active runway intersection like that. But I bet they had spiffy hats.
(For those who are unfamiliar, 1L/R intersect with 28L/R at SFO. The 1s are typically used for departures while crossing traffic lands on the 28s. Anyone who's been to SFO before will realize that common courtesy dictates you let the airplane roll through the runway intersection, even if your gate might be in Terminals 1 or 2, necessitating a bit of a back-taxi on A or B in order to get to your gate. If you slowly roll through the intersection, you block departing traffic on both 1L and 1R, and usually both runways are in heavy use by departures.)
Anyhow, said DL pilot ground to a halt right in the middle of the 1L/ 28L intersection. He obviously wanted the shortest route to his gate, and the heck with anyone else. The exchange went like this:
Tower: "DL ___, I said keep it moving! You're blocking two departures!"
DL: "Well, we're going to the 50 gates right here." (He didn't want to add another couple hundred feet to his taxi.)
Tower: "I realize that sir but I told you to keep it rolling!"
DL: (Still immobile on the runway): "OK, stand by...what taxiway did you want us to exit on?"
Tower: "I don't care sir, just get off the runway and contact Ground on point eight...ahh, it's too late now. Skywest ___ and Virgin ___, sorry, gonna have to get you out after the next pair of arrivals. DL____, next time you land here, keep it rolling like I told you."
DL: "Ahhh... roger that." Finally he found the thrust levers and exited the intersection.
We sat there on 1L watching this in disbelief. I've never seen a 121 crew just stop smack in the middle of an active runway intersection like that. But I bet they had spiffy hats.
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New nominee: The DL guy the other night landing on 28L at SFO who was advised by Tower while on final approach to "keep it rolling through the intersection, I've got two departures on the 1s."
(For those who are unfamiliar, 1L/R intersect with 28L/R at SFO. The 1s are typically used for departures while crossing traffic lands on the 28s. Anyone who's been to SFO before will realize that common courtesy dictates you let the airplane roll through the runway intersection, even if your gate might be in Terminals 1 or 2, necessitating a bit of a back-taxi on A or B in order to get to your gate. If you slowly roll through the intersection, you block departing traffic on both 1L and 1R, and usually both runways are in heavy use by departures.)
Anyhow, said DL pilot ground to a halt right in the middle of the 1L/ 28L intersection. He obviously wanted the shortest route to his gate, and the heck with anyone else. The exchange went like this:
Tower: "DL ___, I said keep it moving! You're blocking two departures!"
DL: "Well, we're going to the 50 gates right here." (He didn't want to add another couple hundred feet to his taxi.)
Tower: "I realize that sir but I told you to keep it rolling!"
DL: (Still immobile on the runway): "OK, stand by...what taxiway did you want us to exit on?"
Tower: "I don't care sir, just get off the runway and contact Ground on point eight...ahh, it's too late now. Skywest ___ and Virgin ___, sorry, gonna have to get you out after the next pair of arrivals. DL____, next time you land here, keep it rolling like I told you."
DL: "Ahhh... roger that." Finally he found the thrust levers and exited the intersection.
We sat there on 1L watching this in disbelief. I've never seen a 121 crew just stop smack in the middle of an active runway intersection like that. But I bet they had spiffy hats.
(For those who are unfamiliar, 1L/R intersect with 28L/R at SFO. The 1s are typically used for departures while crossing traffic lands on the 28s. Anyone who's been to SFO before will realize that common courtesy dictates you let the airplane roll through the runway intersection, even if your gate might be in Terminals 1 or 2, necessitating a bit of a back-taxi on A or B in order to get to your gate. If you slowly roll through the intersection, you block departing traffic on both 1L and 1R, and usually both runways are in heavy use by departures.)
Anyhow, said DL pilot ground to a halt right in the middle of the 1L/ 28L intersection. He obviously wanted the shortest route to his gate, and the heck with anyone else. The exchange went like this:
Tower: "DL ___, I said keep it moving! You're blocking two departures!"
DL: "Well, we're going to the 50 gates right here." (He didn't want to add another couple hundred feet to his taxi.)
Tower: "I realize that sir but I told you to keep it rolling!"
DL: (Still immobile on the runway): "OK, stand by...what taxiway did you want us to exit on?"
Tower: "I don't care sir, just get off the runway and contact Ground on point eight...ahh, it's too late now. Skywest ___ and Virgin ___, sorry, gonna have to get you out after the next pair of arrivals. DL____, next time you land here, keep it rolling like I told you."
DL: "Ahhh... roger that." Finally he found the thrust levers and exited the intersection.
We sat there on 1L watching this in disbelief. I've never seen a 121 crew just stop smack in the middle of an active runway intersection like that. But I bet they had spiffy hats.
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