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80ktsClamp 04-19-2017 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2346257)
I nominate the Delta Captain who came up before boarding and did a 5 minute "pre departure announcement" in the gate area. Tool. His clearly memorized speech had some real bombs of jokes too.

Cool story, bro. Far be it from a pilot to actually be personable and try to engage the passengers.

80ktsClamp 04-19-2017 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2346546)
Correct, but the Captain, in this instance, was wrong. He doesn't have to ask for permission. He doesn't own the flowback seats, the gate does.

If you're jumpseating, check in up front. It's at the least the respectful thing to do... at most carriers it is still required (as it should be if you're the least bit mindful of history).

Vincent Chase 04-19-2017 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2346506)
Depends on what airline. There are some that don't require a Captain approval to sit in a seat.

Oh, you millenials...

CBreezy 04-19-2017 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2346570)
If you're jumpseating, check in up front. It's at the least the respectful thing to do... at most carriers it is still required (as it should be if you're the least bit mindful of history).

I'm not saying he shouldn't check in. I'm saying that the captain was a tool for giving him grief for not asking with cherries on top. Don't be a D. Treat him like a human being.

And, yes, it is lame to put on a show in the gate area. You have an opportunity to great the passengers at the door while boarding or making an announcement or even, as I've seen done, giving a little brief every 10 rows. Whatever, you're the king in the tube for the day. It seems a little neurotic doing it in the gate area.

badflaps 04-19-2017 11:21 AM

Jeez.. What ever happened to manners?

Silver02ex 04-19-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2346546)
Correct, but the Captain, in this instance, was wrong. He doesn't have to ask for permission. He doesn't own the flowback seats, the gate does.

No he's not, the pilot was required to fill out a JS form, and had to get the CA to sign it. If he didn't feel like "asking" he's more than welcome to buy a ZED and go straight to his seat.

Do you think it was appropriate when the guy just said "I'm with xxx airline I got a seat in the back" and just hands the CA a JS for to sign with no "my name is....." To me it sounds like " Hey I'm JSing, sign this"

CBreezy 04-19-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Vincent Chase (Post 2346583)
Oh, you millenials...

Not a millennial. Try again.

PSASUX 04-19-2017 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2346602)
No he's not, the pilot was required to fill out a JS form, and had to get the CA to sign it. If he didn't feel like "asking" he's more than welcome to buy a ZED and go straight to his seat.

Do you think it was appropriate when the guy just said "I'm with xxx airline I got a seat in the back" and just hands the CA a JS for to sign with no "my name is....." To me it sounds like " Hey I'm JSing, sign this"

***??? What airline has the CA sign the JS form?

rickair7777 04-19-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2346496)
The Ameriflight pilot who came up and said "Hey guys I'm with Ameriflight, I got a seat in the back." The CA and I looked at each other was speechless. All the CA said was "You're more than welcome but you still have to ask."


Got that beat, 135 freight dude comes up and says "I'm up here with you". I've never heard of his company so I look it up in the FOM. Nope, no recip.

"But I've got CASS, so I'm good".

I told him if he could talk the gate into giving him a seat in the back, he was welcome to it but not up front if he's not on the list.

"But it was sold out, my company couldn't buy me a seat so they told me to JS to my next position."

:rolleyes:

seminolepilot 04-19-2017 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2346829)
Got that beat, 135 freight dude comes up and says "I'm up here with you". I've never heard of his company so I look it up in the FOM. Nope, no recip.

"But I've got CASS, so I'm good".

I told him if he could talk the gate into giving him a seat in the back, he was welcome to it but not up front if he's not on the list.

"But it was sold out, my company couldn't buy me a seat so they told me to JS to my next position."

:rolleyes:

Sounds like he need a lesson on how not to let the company bend him over.


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