I didn't say unqualified I said your gonna feel underqualifed. When you're at 5000 feet on a downwind doing 250 knots and they clear you for the visual you will feel overwhelmed and not know what to do. And by the way usually the autopilot comes off unless you wanna be a pansy about it. It takes a couple months to get the hang of it. I'm sure the ioe captains will appreciate previous 121 pilots better because they don't have to take the controls. Not saying I'm a super pilot, we all have to learn at some point. But I also believe the best qualified should get the job. In 07 500 hours were some of the best qualifed. Now we have people with thousands of hours on the streets while CFI's are getting hired.

 

I disagree. "Underqualified" and being "new" to something are completely different things. Of course a person with little to no experience in a jet is going to be a little nervous or possibly overwhelmed on their early landings, but this doesn't mean they are "underqualified." By your logic, a person who doesn't know how to cook a burger and enter orders into the computer at a fast food restaurant is "underqualified" - after all, they've never done it before, right? I am new to jets myself, and my first landing was a little nerve racking/exciting, but I never felt underqualified for being there.

The underqualified person would be the one who is unable to learn the new skills of flying a jet.

Does anybody know how many recruiters Eagle has? I just wondered if everything went through CC or if individual recruiters had any leeway in their decision making.

 

Does anyone know the overall progress of hiring? Originally they said they were going to hire between 100 and 150. Does anyone know how many have been hired? Or at least, offered to be hired?

 

I find it all pretty unbelieveable, and I'm probably killing my chances at a job here, but seriously, why hire CFI's with 1400 hours and 150 multi all in piston over the guys with 121 experience, type ratings, etc???

I have over 2000TT, 1200 Multi, 1100 Turbine, 121 exp, last 12 months with a flying job, and an EMB-145 SIC Type, full currency and an internal recommendation. Haven't heard squat while the less qualified are getting calls. Any theories?

An ex 121 guy with lots of experience is far more likely to succeed in training and is a better pilot once out on the line, due to EXPERIENCE! This has ALWAYS been a proven fact, and this is why you have to have MORE flight time to fly for a major. The cream of the crop should get picked first, right?! Not so with Eagle HR evidently, and it confuses me.

 

did you get furloughed also?

 

Hey Banja, all I can tell you is that I have pretty much the same times you do, and I got called. I do know that my internal rec was persistent at calling and talking to whoever he had to so that I could get a shot. Maybe whoever you know there can make some more calls? I do agree though, that without an internal rec, it's pretty tough to get called right now.

 

Has your internal called HR and talked to CC,KD or CZ?

 

He's left several messages, can't get his phone calls returned. :-(

 

they hire who they want to. if they like you , you get hired.

 

I love that reference a few posts above comparing being under-qualified to be an airline pilot to being under-qualified to work in a burger joint. I doubt this poster thought this argument through too much, but this comparison is exactly what is wrong with this industry!

In the late 90s I once had to sit through a lecture (in recurrent training) from a new airline CEO, about how running an airline was "exactly like making French fries". In other words, you can take any person off the street, and with limited training and experience, turn him into a competent pilot as easily as you could turn him into a fry cook. Just plug any old average person into the corporate machine. This CEO's philosophy was that McDonalds, Northwest, Mesaba, or whatever... it was all the same.

I still like to believe that my skill set took years to develope. Nothing against fry cooks (I used to be one), but I think being a good pilot takes much more seasoning.

Anyway, I got nothing against these guys with around 1000-2000 hours getting hired. I had 1300 when I got hired at my first airline. But, I do think it's odd that guys with thousands of hours don't get called. (I'm not on furlough by the way).