I like to think I'm a pretty likeable guy! I've always interviewed well, I'm just asking for a chance! There's a lot of deserving guys out there even more experienced than me who deserve a second look. If they're worried I'd be a "flight risk" then they don't know me and my situation very well. How does one convey that on a resume?! (If that truly is the problem)

 

bla, bla, bla. I DISAGREE. Experience is a measure of how qualified you are. I stopped reading when you referenced burgers and fries. We have lives at steak not burgers and fries.

 

Because usually ex 121 guys will more than likely leave the company after so much money has been invested in training. A individual that is new to 121 aviation is more likely to stay with the company much longer or make the company a career.

 

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was merely pointing out that it isn't fair to say anybody without 121 experience is under-qualified, because it simply isn't true. Just because you personally have 1600 turbine hours doesn't mean somebody with anything less is incapable, or even less capable, of flying a jet. There is a lot more to experience than the number of pages in ones logbook, although that definitely plays a part.

Personally, I'm at a loss as to why you haven't gotten a call, and wish you luck. I guess only a few people in the AE hiring department know the rationale, but its ultimately their decision.

Also, sorry if my "burger" analogy wasn't clear. I was more referring to the training required, not comparing the jobs themselves. Obviously the basic requirements to be a pilot require much more "seasoning" than do a fry cook. Generally, people could become a great fry cook faster than they could become a great pilot. Probably, a lot of people who could be a fry cook don't have the stuff to become a pilot. But, nonetheless, there is some training required for both.

 

The number of hours doesn't matter so much, but zero hours in the airplane DOES matter. As an F.O., one of you responsibilities is to assume captain duties in the even the captain becomes incapacitated. What if he kicks the bucket on you're first flight. Would you want you're family in the back of that plane? It's a matter of safety. And also captains make mistakes too, they can benefit more from 121 experienced pilots. If you're in ORD and you're captain is about to deviate from taxi instructions, are you gonna step on the breaks as a new hire? Probably not because you have no idea where you're at, you're doing checklists, and you don't have the guts to question the captain. An experienced F.O. is more able to catch mistakes, speak up and prevent deviations.

 

Overqualified.

Overqualified.

You guys have great experience, but will jump as soon as DAL/SWA/FedEx start hiring in the future (as you should). The CFI with 1500TT and no 121 experience will be wide-eyed and giddy for at least 2-3+ yrs flying the line at Eagle until they realize "Hey wait a minute..."

 

There are no calls because EAGLE ALPA will now approve hardships to those Flowthru pilots that want to stay at Eagle,therefore,they wont need to hire many as planned. Thankyou very much.

 

Not to flame guys but... The last few pages I've read B***hing about "why havent they called" or "they hired a CFI with 1000hrs and not me with 3000hrs and a type".
APPLY and dont hold your breath. If AE calls fantastic, if not oh well. I personally want to congratulate all those that have been hired on recently. Its a tough job market right now, you should be proud! As for the guys that say someone with no 121 background isnt qualified let me ask you this. Were you qual'd before your first 121 gig?
I have previous 121 time and thousands of hrs of PIC and still unemployed. This is the game we all have chosen to play. I can't wait to get back in the SUCK. In the meantime, I'll collect my weekly check and enjoy my nap.

 

It is true that many people would try to go to DAL/SWA/FedEx, however, I think that you guys are missing one important point. For every 100 people that apply to these companies, they might hire 1 person. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard someone say just get your 1,000 PIC turbine and move on, then I would never have to fly again. But, where do these knuckleheads think that you are going to move on to? If you people think that just becuase you meet some minimum, then these companies will just hire you, your crazy.

Just trying to get people to understand, things don't work that way. All of those 100 people who apply meet the minimums, yet still the 1 only gets hired. Therefore, guys with high time aren't just going to jump ship, because where are they going to go? I interviewed at AE recently with 7,000 TT, PIC turbine time and lots of 121, 135, time and type ratings. If someone can tell me what major is hiring I would like to hear about it. Point is that just because you are higher time does not mean your just going to bolt, the industry won't allow it for most cases.

 

Speaking for myself (one of the "over-qualified" guys), I never had, nor will have, the intention to bolt from a regional for the sole reason to fly big iron. If I make a liveable wage with good schedules I'm happy.

But I have left regionals that have settled for what I thought were bad contracts, or that have broke promises.

Maybe I'm not typical, but that's how I am.

Plus, like the guy above me said, just where would you expect these "over-qualified" guys to go? No major airlines are hiring. Probably will be almost none for 3 years or more. When they do, the odds will be long. I certainly think the regionals can get their mileage out of of the "over-qualified" so long as they don't abuse them too bad.