Stinger6

Care to hazard a "how long" guess?
This topic is getting beaten up...but still...
From day one of indoc (3/19) I'm told 2 weeks of ground/systems.
Then on to sim...("how long" guess #1)
Then on to IOE...("how long" guess #2)
Then completion of IOE...100 hours?...("how long" guess #3)
Then upgrade training (I'm lucky, with the req 121 time)...how does that even work? And realistically, do I know the airplane and the company "well enough" at the conclusion of IOE?
I think there are 5 questions in there, 6 if you count the first one.
THANK YOU!! All other information comes sporadically (though professionally) from onboarding.

ASpilot2be

It is my understanding that they changed the footprint of Q training by a little bit. There are now extra FMS labs, and more systems training. That is what I was told by an instructor yesterday.

BigfatQ

From DOH to line check was just short of 4 months for my class. We started mid last year in the Q.

snackysmores

If you meet the requirements you can upgrade on the Q400 as soon as you finish your FO IOE, then you will go right back and do the same exact ground school, sims, etc. with all the delays that come with it. If you did that you would probably be sitting in the left seat with less than 100 hours of time in the plane, with about 7 months of company seniority and zero real trips flown.

I would highly advise against upgrading on the Q with zero experience in the airplane. I would also recommend sitting in the right seat for at least one winter. Our Q400 operation is overly complex and there is a LOT of little things you need to know about that will bite you if you aren't on top of your sh!t. The FO sitting next to you will probably be a new hire (every FO I'm flying with this upcoming bid is a new hire FWIW), and everyone is going to be looking at you to have all the answers 100% of the time. Everyone's flying backgrounds are different so I'm not saying it can't be done, but you have a lot of responsibility and it would definitely be less stressful if you want to get through your regional experience free of training/checkride/linecheck failures.

Stinger6

Sound advice.

Vanilla

So... the jet is so overstaffed that we have pilots sitting around flying as little as 2 hours per month? And now guys are waiting nearly 2 months for IOE? How many check airman do we have on the 175? How tough is it to pull FOs off a trip, pay them trip guarantee and throw the new guy in the right seat? Also, if pilots are flying so little, are they meeting the 100 hours consolidation in 120 days?

flyblo

Maybe this is a silly question...but are folks getting paid while they sit around and do nothing?

Taylor814ce

Yes. Min guarantee.

FlyingOliver

I'm guessing pay rate structure is identical between the Q400 and the E175

cactusflyer

The hourly pay is identical, but the Q400 has a daily min guarantee of 4.2hrs, which the jet doesn't.

Since the E175's are now doing PDX-SEA, SEA-GEG, and SEA-PSC, that means there are an increasing number of situations where the daily pay on the Q400 is better than on the 175.