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Old 02-04-2018 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
You know you can quote his texts all into one right? Instead of quoting him five times.
It's more fun for ME:

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/jetblue/110464-will-jetblue-fly-europe.html
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Old 02-04-2018 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
It's more fun for ME:

will JetBlue fly to europe?
You seem to be a lot about “you”. I’m curious were you at the picket supporting all of “us”?
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Old 02-04-2018 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
You know you can quote his texts all into one right? Instead of quoting him five times.
It’s for dramatic effect
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Old 02-04-2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
250 a year is what we are hiring......
Many of which are just to cover attrition at the bottom. People are dropping like flies because it #keepsgettingbetter (everywhere other than JB).
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Old 02-04-2018 | 02:03 PM
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I’m not confusing anything.
Hulls are not ASMs.
Right now.
We have firm orders for 95 more Airbus. Average 14 planes a year.

It’s not rocket surgery. Stagnant means not moving. Still.
We have movement. Period. Minimal retirements. But still taking delivery of planes. Again there is no argument that you will move up faster st DAL UAL or wherever.

The point is that we are not stagnant.
So ummm yes.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Um, no. You are confusing ASM growth with seniority driving growth. We are growing ASM at around 5% because we are adding seats, and buying 321's. Our hiring tells the true story. 150 pilots/year for growth equates to around a 3% rate. Your relative seniority will average around HALF that, so around 1.5%. At that rate of growth you will be 50% up the list in about 33 years. Obviously people will retire during that time, but make no mistake we are stagnant and UAL has announced plans to grow FASTER than us.
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Old 02-04-2018 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I’m not confusing anything.
Hulls are not ASMs.
Right now.
We have firm orders for 95 more Airbus. Average 14 planes a year.

It’s not rocket surgery. Stagnant means not moving. Still.
We have movement. Period. Minimal retirements. But still taking delivery of planes. Again there is no argument that you will move up faster st DAL UAL or wherever.

The point is that we are not stagnant.
So ummm yes.
When my movement up the list takes 23 years to reach 50% based on growth, that is stagnant.
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Old 02-04-2018 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Many of which are just to cover attrition at the bottom. People are dropping like flies because it #keepsgettingbetter (everywhere other than JB).

Ohhhh ATR Driver......You know thats not true. You might wish it to be true but it's not......Its higher than it should be for sure. Just lies. Let's post facts.
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Old 02-04-2018 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
And, our growth rate is slowing. So, I have no reason to believe someone hired today will even do that well.
I agree- We have hired our last Captain for quite some time unless a contract mixes the bowl a bit.
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Old 02-04-2018 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Ohhhh ATR Driver......You know thats not true. You might wish it to be true but it's not......Its higher than it should be for sure. Just lies. Let's post facts.
So how many, (%) of new hires, stay at least 2 years? If there is even accurate and available data on that.
If this summer doesnt see a meaningful effort by "management", do you see attrition climb? How patient are you willing to remain in the face of company obstinance?
Sorry I missed you in fla. I finished Friday.
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Old 02-04-2018 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
So how many, (%) of new hires, stay at least 2 years? If there is even accurate and available data on that.
If this summer doesnt see a meaningful effort by "management", do you see attrition climb? How patient are you willing to remain in the face of company obstinance?
Sorry I missed you in fla. I finished Friday.
It was around 70 this year all attrition. I don't know how much was what.......
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