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05-17-2018 | 12:39 PM
#91
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The more I read the language on the signing bonus the more it sucks. . . They would need to come at us a lot harder than the ave $13,800 to get me to a yes vote. After 3+ years, about $8k after taxes is going to be a 'sweetener?' Total joke. . .
05-17-2018 | 12:52 PM
#92
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FYI...
Premium pay does not get turned on at AA.... except December’s rear scheduling fiasco. hardly any OT flying ever available at AA. Unless you guys/gals want to be like Southwest. Research what other mainline does. If I’m wrong correct me with facts.
05-17-2018 | 12:58 PM
#93
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The REAL Bluedriver
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So no thanks.
Go spank it to the AIP.
05-17-2018 | 01:02 PM
#94
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From: A320 CA
Again, I am focusing on the pay rates. . I know, I know. . It's not everything with a contract. But, I am stuck on the fact that there was not an even raise through the pilot group. So, me, a 7 year FO gets about 15%, after having paid dues for 3+ years. I'll be sitting next to some non-member 12 year CA. . didn't pay anything for 3+ years and they get an 18% raise? You tell me where the justice is in that? I realize that I can bid CA and make the higher rate but it just doesn't sit well with me.
05-17-2018 | 01:03 PM
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05-17-2018 | 01:09 PM
#96
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Obviously today was just the highlights but seriously the little things. No crew meals. No guaranteed downtown layovers over 16hrs. All that stuff adds up. Of course I’m a pilot and I’ll complain about everything but I’m tired of laying over in Tacoma for a Seattle overnight.
05-17-2018 | 01:11 PM
#97
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Don't be a Richard. It's possibly not just a couple bucks bud. Hourly rate yes, but more like 10-20 an hour over the next couple years as we start behind and only get 2%, while others are already higher and get 3%+ and some like Delta and United are going into negotiations.
Then there is the profit sharing plan. If it really is this year's plan in the TA, that paid our captains 5-8k this year I think. Delta guys were getting 40-70k. SWA 20-30 I think.
Please correct me if my numbers are wrong, but that's NOT a couple of bucks.
Then there is the profit sharing plan. If it really is this year's plan in the TA, that paid our captains 5-8k this year I think. Delta guys were getting 40-70k. SWA 20-30 I think.
Please correct me if my numbers are wrong, but that's NOT a couple of bucks.
To be fair, there is no PS guarantee in the SWA contract, but I think this year was a pretty typical year.
When comparing contracts, that ain’t nothing.
We also go back into negotiations in 2020, and I expect to see significant improvements.
I’ll offer no opinions on your AIP, not my place. I will simply renew my best wishes to the group, and hope you guys end up with something great, whether it be this one or another.
05-17-2018 | 01:18 PM
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Again, I am focusing on the pay rates. . I know, I know. . It's not everything with a contract. But, I am stuck on the fact that there was not an even raise through the pilot group. So, me, a 7 year FO gets about 15%, after having paid dues for 3+ years. I'll be sitting next to some non-member 12 year CA. . didn't pay anything for 3+ years and they get an 18% raise? You tell me where the justice is in that? I realize that I can bid CA and make the higher rate but it just doesn't sit well with me.
Non members reaping rewards is absolutely bull****.
05-17-2018 | 01:28 PM
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Again, I am focusing on the pay rates. . I know, I know. . It's not everything with a contract. But, I am stuck on the fact that there was not an even raise through the pilot group. So, me, a 7 year FO gets about 15%, after having paid dues for 3+ years. I'll be sitting next to some non-member 12 year CA. . didn't pay anything for 3+ years and they get an 18% raise? You tell me where the justice is in that? I realize that I can bid CA and make the higher rate but it just doesn't sit well with me.
05-17-2018 | 01:32 PM
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