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seekingblue , 05-17-2018 11:06 AM
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Let’s vote “NO” so we can go back to the table and negotiate for another 1-2 yrs. Then end up with a bit more or a bit less.
If you guys want SWA, AA, UAL or Delta pay rates, then take your **s to those companies and sell yourself. You complainers could have and should have left years ago, but you didn’t and now you’re stuck here. Complain all you want, but anyone *****in about a couple of bucks difference in pay, is pretty silly.
It ain’t a perfect contract, but did you really expect to be the industry leaders?
Once again, leave if you aren’t happy. I’ll venture to say, none of you will even call the ALPA reps to express your concerns about the AIP.
Just keep complaining on chat room, where the majority of you think your negative opinions will change the world!
I look forward to seeing retaliation posts...because as always, nothing will come out of it...
Vote will be a “YES”. Especially if 12-0 reps voted yes.
If we vote “NO”, then all the reps get fired, we start over and probably end up worse.
Vote “NO” if you want that outcome...
I feel similarly, but take a less hard line.

I feel like I should get popcorn now.
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Bluedriver , 05-17-2018 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba
Let’s vote “NO” so we can go back to the table and negotiate for another 1-2 yrs. Then end up with a bit more or a bit less.
If you guys want SWA, AA, UAL or Delta pay rates, then take your **s to those companies and sell yourself. You complainers could have and should have left years ago, but you didn’t and now you’re stuck here. Complain all you want, but anyone *****in about a couple of bucks difference in pay, is pretty silly.
It ain’t a perfect contract, but did you really expect to be the industry leaders?
Once again, leave if you aren’t happy. I’ll venture to say, none of you will even call the ALPA reps to express your concerns about the AIP.
Just keep complaining on chat room, where the majority of you think your negative opinions will change the world!
I look forward to seeing retaliation posts...because as always, nothing will come out of it...
Vote will be a “YES”. Especially if 12-0 reps voted yes.
If we vote “NO”, then all the reps get fired, we start over and probably end up worse.
Vote “NO” if you want that outcome...
Don't be a Richard. It's possibly not just a couple bucks bud. Hourly rate yes, but more like 10-20 an hour over the next couple years as we start behind and only get 2%, while others are already higher and get 3%+ and some like Delta and United are going into negotiations.

Then there is the profit sharing plan. If it really is this year's plan in the TA, that paid our captains 5-8k this year I think. Delta guys were getting 40-70k. SWA 20-30 I think.

Please correct me if my numbers are wrong, but that's NOT a couple of bucks.
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pilotpayne , 05-17-2018 11:37 AM
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Don't be a Richard. It's possibly not just a couple bucks bud. Hourly rate yes, but more like 10-20 an hour over the next couple years as we start behind and only get 2%, while others are already higher and get 3%+ and some like Delta and United are going into negotiations.

Then there is the profit sharing plan. If it really is this year's plan in the TA, that paid our captains 5-8k this year I think. Delta guys were getting 40-70k. SWA 20-30 I think.

Please correct me if my numbers are wrong, but that's NOT a couple of bucks.

POSSIBLY is the key word.
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba
Let’s vote “NO” so we can go back to the table and negotiate for another 1-2 yrs. Then end up with a bit more or a bit less.
If you guys want SWA, AA, UAL or Delta pay rates, then take your **s to those companies and sell yourself. You complainers could have and should have left years ago, but you didn’t and now you’re stuck here. Complain all you want, but anyone *****in about a couple of bucks difference in pay, is pretty silly.
It ain’t a perfect contract, but did you really expect to be the industry leaders?
Once again, leave if you aren’t happy. I’ll venture to say, none of you will even call the ALPA reps to express your concerns about the AIP.
Just keep complaining on chat room, where the majority of you think your negative opinions will change the world!
I look forward to seeing retaliation posts...because as always, nothing will come out of it...
Vote will be a “YES”. Especially if 12-0 reps voted yes.
If we vote “NO”, then all the reps get fired, we start over and probably end up worse.
Vote “NO” if you want that outcome...

Couple of bucks? $274-$258=$16

$16×900hrs/yr=$14,000 PER YEAR for a CA on the 321

Now add in STD/LTD.

Couple of bucks...
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hyperboy , 05-17-2018 12:07 PM
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Very, very VERY underwhelmed.

No decision made, OBVIOUSLY.
Nobody cares about your coward bullying hide behind the keyboard opinion you have a ONE VOTE.......Use it!
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Bluedriver , 05-17-2018 12:18 PM
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POSSIBLY is the key word.
What is your point? Who are our pay rates higher than after Sept this year?

How did you March profit sharing check compare to a narrow body Delta or SWA captains?

Honest questions?
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Bluedriver , 05-17-2018 12:19 PM
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Nobody cares about your coward bullying hide behind the keyboard opinion you have a ONE VOTE.......Use it!
The idiot speaks.

Yes, yes, we know, your are happy with the AIP.
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ColdWhiskey , 05-17-2018 12:23 PM
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...Question from an outsider...

Did your pilot group and NC ever increase your initial "ask" as the process drug out for many years and other pilot groups made significant advances with higher wages and better benefits?

Thanks
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PasserOGas , 05-17-2018 12:26 PM
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...Question from an outsider...

Did your pilot group and NC ever increase your initial "ask" as the process drug out for many years and other pilot groups made significant advances with higher wages and better benefits?

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No idea. They kept us in the dark the whole time.
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hyperboy , 05-17-2018 12:27 PM
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The idiot speaks.

Yes, yes, we know, your are happy with the AIP.
BlueDriver the closet juicer yet again speaks for everyone else (don't speak for me) since he hides....Call me.....Man up!


Maybe your the company troll and the reason you won't call me is you are a coward?
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