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Old 05-29-2018 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by svergin
Frankly your airline isn’t big enough to need a domestic feed. So you can beat your chest about your “industry leading scope” while you rationalize accepting substandard wages while your management benefits from the highest profit margin in the industry. Yes, the big 3 have express carriers, but we also have hundreds of widebody planes. Where are your widebody planes and who is doing that Europe flying under your code?

Here’s a short list of your “partner airlines” listed on the JetBlue website: Aer Lingus, Emirates, El Al, Hawaiian, jet Suite, Cape Air, Lufthansa, South African Airlines.

The full list of 40+ airlines doing your international flying under your code can be seen here. https://www.jetblue.com/airline-partners/
This is funny. You come over to the jetblue forum and throw a few jabs and what you don’t like us pointing out your scope issues. My my that’s a nice glass house you have there.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Riiight. How Big was us air when awa purchased them? How big is Alaska? Shoot ATA had domestic feed and they were even smaller than that.

Spare me the “frankly”. 9 feeder airlines. 570 RJs. United airlines losing scope for decades. But hey! You were able To Protect those wide body rates for everyone that got 5 more years to
Fly them as you furloughed the bottom feeders. But hey thanks for the education about our international feeders. Something we’ve had zero control over for.... ah well until now. How long has United been giving away flying? How many international partners does the mighty united have?

Oh wait. I couldn’t care less.

Bye now. Enjoy your flying career.
Gee if we only would try to do something about that scope issue, any ideas?
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Old 05-29-2018 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
So are you willing to vote no to a TA that doesn't claw back significant amounts of that flying? I mean, at least UAL does SOME of its own widebody flying.

He is enjoying at least 40% more in earnings than you, and will continue to earn more under this AIP.
You keep telling everyone else to wake up but you fail to even understand a simple discussion. That is not what coolhand was saying at all, and I bet you know that.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Gee if we only would try to do something about that scope issue, any ideas?
Y'all are pretty touchy.

We work for a shady, bottom feeding company. We feed some of the worlds worst (from a US pilot's perspective) airlines. We do it for significantly less money than other US pilots make. If this is news to you I'm sorry.

Now, what are we going to do about it? All I can say is, that scope section had better blow my socks off. I am sure its amazing like all of the other bullet points.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Don't let this guy get under your skin. United seems to be the most arrogant pilot group out there, but with nothing to be arrogant about. It's very strange. You guys can expect some..... friction.... if those merger rumors come true.
I’d agree with that, had a few in the jumpseat who were blown away when I told them I had absolutely 0 aspirations or desires to ever fly a leg longer than 5 hours, let alone a “large” aircraft. I’ll stick with my east coast mail route with no regional feed.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
HB, did I ever give you the impression that I cared about anything you said?




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The fact that you retorted contradicts your statement..
But then again you do represent the average pilot, although with better and faster typing skills.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by django
The fact that you retorted contradicts your statement..
But then again you do represent the average pilot, although with better and faster typing skills.

You assume the message was intended for him to read exclusively.


By the way, do you have some kind of special mind reading ability?



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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
You assume the message was intended for him to read exclusively.


By the way, do you have some kind of special mind reading ability?



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You’ve noticed😊
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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
Don't let this guy get under your skin. United seems to be the most arrogant pilot group out there, but with nothing to be arrogant about. It's very strange. You guys can expect some..... friction.... if those merger rumors come true.

Hahaha United... reminds of a story a friend told me. Basically he just retired from the USAF. Did a career fair where he had a United pre-interview interview. Some little 23 yr old RJ screener girl told him "he needed more experience to work at United". He's was an F-22 test pilot!! He'd flown everything from fighter jets to heavies, and not just as an operator but as an engineer/scientist doing stuff she will never do. My jaw dropped when I heard how ignorant and arrogant this girl was. It goes to show the kind of people they're hiring. He's at Delta now.



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Old 05-29-2018 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Y'all are pretty touchy.

We work for a shady, bottom feeding company. We feed some of the worlds worst (from a US pilot's perspective) airlines. We do it for significantly less money than other US pilots make. If this is news to you I'm sorry.

Now, what are we going to do about it? All I can say is, that scope section had better blow my socks off. I am sure its amazing like all of the other bullet points.

Facts are facts.



However, we're in charge of our own destiny. If we had an industry leading contract I'm sure many of our rockstar pilots could play a pivotal role in making the company excel. At the very least, it will attract better talent instead of just juicers.


The industry has a long way to go before being respectable.



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