New Reserve Rules
08-21-2019 | 11:30 AM
#71
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LCR = Long call reserve.
SCR = Short call reserve.
As far as the rest I'm sure you will figure it out yourself and figure it's not that bad compared to the 'stan'.
But for those of without that frame of reference, most RSV (reserve) schedules are known for the entire month. Here at Bluejet we traded giving the company the flexibility to assign RAPs (reserve availability periods) day before (ie Monday for Tuesday) for the hope that we could move, drop reserve days for QOL (quality of life).
Then ALPA local sold the sizzle but not the burn.
Not national our local guys!!!
So not only did the company retain the flexibility to assign your RAP on a DIALY basis (instead on monthly) they have the ability to change the RAP once assigned (new) and our ability to move or drop is now severely limited thanks to the LCR and SCR 1, 2, 3, and 4 day buffers being implemented (new). This affects lienholders too.
The two (new) potentially just wreaked RSV (reserve) and lienholder QOL without a peep from our ALPA local guys who sold this as a QOL contract. BTW when you read section 25 take a marking pen to the first paragraph. Its a BS and will never be implemented.
Oh well, they call we fly. Except now they call and change your RAP and then fly without the 'go pill'.
Look up FTG and FRE on your own!!
So yes it better than the 'stan' but so are a lot of things.
And sincerely thanks for your service!
SCR = Short call reserve.
As far as the rest I'm sure you will figure it out yourself and figure it's not that bad compared to the 'stan'.
But for those of without that frame of reference, most RSV (reserve) schedules are known for the entire month. Here at Bluejet we traded giving the company the flexibility to assign RAPs (reserve availability periods) day before (ie Monday for Tuesday) for the hope that we could move, drop reserve days for QOL (quality of life).
Then ALPA local sold the sizzle but not the burn.
Not national our local guys!!!
So not only did the company retain the flexibility to assign your RAP on a DIALY basis (instead on monthly) they have the ability to change the RAP once assigned (new) and our ability to move or drop is now severely limited thanks to the LCR and SCR 1, 2, 3, and 4 day buffers being implemented (new). This affects lienholders too.
The two (new) potentially just wreaked RSV (reserve) and lienholder QOL without a peep from our ALPA local guys who sold this as a QOL contract. BTW when you read section 25 take a marking pen to the first paragraph. Its a BS and will never be implemented.
Oh well, they call we fly. Except now they call and change your RAP and then fly without the 'go pill'.
Look up FTG and FRE on your own!!
So yes it better than the 'stan' but so are a lot of things.
And sincerely thanks for your service!
08-21-2019 | 11:45 AM
#72
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Just to be sure. I’m not the only one who now can’t move a single scl rsv day due to the SCR 1,2,3,4 grid in September?? August I could swap and drop days no problem, but Septemper is locked DOWN. reason given...SCR 1 at min. I’m E90 BOS FO which I imagine is one of the better staffed seats at the moment.
I’m LCR for September, 320, and I couldn’t move any days as usual during the 48 hour windows. When the FCFS opened, I was able to move a few days around to make my schedule better, but not ideal. The grid system is hard to navigate.
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08-21-2019 | 11:49 AM
#73
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Just to be sure. I’m not the only one who now can’t move a single scl rsv day due to the SCR 1,2,3,4 grid in September?? August I could swap and drop days no problem, but Septemper is locked DOWN. reason given...SCR 1 at min. I’m E90 BOS FO which I imagine is one of the better staffed seats at the moment.
08-21-2019 | 11:56 AM
#74
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From: C-130
LCR = Long call reserve.
SCR = Short call reserve.
As far as the rest I'm sure you will figure it out yourself and figure it's not that bad compared to the 'stan'.
But for those of without that frame of reference, most RSV (reserve) schedules are known for the entire month. Here at Bluejet we traded giving the company the flexibility to assign RAPs (reserve availability periods) day before (ie Monday for Tuesday) for the hope that we could move, drop reserve days for QOL (quality of life).
Then ALPA local sold the sizzle but not the burn.
Not national our local guys!!!
So not only did the company retain the flexibility to assign your RAP on a DIALY basis (instead on monthly) they have the ability to change the RAP once assigned (new) and our ability to move or drop is now severely limited thanks to the LCR and SCR 1, 2, 3, and 4 day buffers being implemented (new). This affects lienholders too.
The two (new) potentially just wreaked RSV (reserve) and lienholder QOL without a peep from our ALPA local guys who sold this as a QOL contract. BTW when you read section 25 take a marking pen to the first paragraph. Its a BS and will never be implemented.
Oh well, they call we fly. Except now they call and change your RAP and then fly without the 'go pill'.
Look up FTG and FRE on your own!!
So yes it better than the 'stan' but so are a lot of things.
And sincerely thanks for your service!
SCR = Short call reserve.
As far as the rest I'm sure you will figure it out yourself and figure it's not that bad compared to the 'stan'.
But for those of without that frame of reference, most RSV (reserve) schedules are known for the entire month. Here at Bluejet we traded giving the company the flexibility to assign RAPs (reserve availability periods) day before (ie Monday for Tuesday) for the hope that we could move, drop reserve days for QOL (quality of life).
Then ALPA local sold the sizzle but not the burn.
Not national our local guys!!!
So not only did the company retain the flexibility to assign your RAP on a DIALY basis (instead on monthly) they have the ability to change the RAP once assigned (new) and our ability to move or drop is now severely limited thanks to the LCR and SCR 1, 2, 3, and 4 day buffers being implemented (new). This affects lienholders too.
The two (new) potentially just wreaked RSV (reserve) and lienholder QOL without a peep from our ALPA local guys who sold this as a QOL contract. BTW when you read section 25 take a marking pen to the first paragraph. Its a BS and will never be implemented.
Oh well, they call we fly. Except now they call and change your RAP and then fly without the 'go pill'.
Look up FTG and FRE on your own!!
So yes it better than the 'stan' but so are a lot of things.
And sincerely thanks for your service!
Or are you saying this: I commute into BOS to be in position for my scheduled rsv RAP. I get to BOS and they change the RAP from the morning to the evening or vice versa? And then continue changing it each day while I sit in a BOS crashpad? Then if I don't get assigned I go home at the end of my rsv stint?
08-21-2019 | 11:59 AM
#75
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Strange. I’m getting denied on everything. Green, black and red days only pertain to line holders now right? That’s what I remember from the ALPA video. Looks like lineholders can drop most days based on the standard grid because it’s mostly green. The SCR 1 column is at min or slightly below min almost everyday. Also the buffer in SCR 1 is 20+ higher than the standard grid. I can’t get it to even swap 2 days that are the same reserve coverage because they are both right on the buffer...not under but not over either. Looks like it won’t let anything move unless it’s +1... Maybe I’m doing this wrong but August was great success...September and the SCR 1,2,34 grids...not so much. Feels like it’s rigged to make moving reserve days virtually impossible now.
08-21-2019 | 12:07 PM
#76
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I commute into BOS to be in position for my scheduled rsv RAP. I get to BOS and they change the RAP from the morning to the evening or vice versa? And then continue changing it each day while I sit in a BOS crashpad? Then if I don't get assigned I go home at the end of my rsv stint?
Used to require concurrence.
It's bad enough that we don't know tomorrows RAP until today vs being on the same RAP all month now they can change that too.
If this is no big deal to you, then what can we say!
08-21-2019 | 12:31 PM
#77
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But only for short call. As a short call reserve, the company can change your RAP for the following day after it is published. It still needs to comply with all rules of course.
For long call, the company cannot convert you to short call for the following day once the daily reserve overview is published. And as long call you have a 24 hr RAP for the duration of your reserve block.
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08-21-2019 | 12:41 PM
#78
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A list of the rules!
The Company shall notify a Short Call Reserve before the end of the current day’s RAP, regarding any modification to the Pilot’s RAP for the following day via JETCRW. If a Pilot has not acknowledged the modification prior to the end of his RAP, the Company shall establish Positive Contact.
08-21-2019 | 01:38 PM
#79
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Ok thanks for that good info. So, for example, you are saying this: I could be sitting at my home in the middle of Georgia on a day off that was a scheduled day off per my awarded monthly rsv schedule and the company could contact me on this day off and tell me I have to be in BOS ready to take an assignment at 0800 the next day even if that day was my day off also? Essentially changing my schedule and giving me zero predictability in my life and scrambling to get in place?
Or are you saying this: I commute into BOS to be in position for my scheduled rsv RAP. I get to BOS and they change the RAP from the morning to the evening or vice versa? And then continue changing it each day while I sit in a BOS crashpad? Then if I don't get assigned I go home at the end of my rsv stint?
Or are you saying this: I commute into BOS to be in position for my scheduled rsv RAP. I get to BOS and they change the RAP from the morning to the evening or vice versa? And then continue changing it each day while I sit in a BOS crashpad? Then if I don't get assigned I go home at the end of my rsv stint?
They cannot contact you ( unless you answer and say 'yes') and change your sched while on your days off.
We're all describing the ability for the company to adjust/ screw your schedule while you're already at work.
While it's possible to have your RSV run into your days off, doesn't happen too often. And if it does, it triggers ( past certain clock hours) additional pay, or day off, etc.
These new RSV rules are new to us too. It's going to take a couple of months for all of us to figure out how this will affect us, but currently not optimistic ( coming from someone who has bid RSV for several years). I'm glad the Co didn't apply these new rules during Nov or Dec...imagine the riots
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08-21-2019 | 04:09 PM
#80
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But only for short call. As a short call reserve, the company can change your RAP for the following day after it is published. It still needs to comply with all rules of course.
For long call, the company cannot convert you to short call for the following day once the daily reserve overview is published. And as long call you have a 24 hr RAP for the duration of your reserve block.
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For long call, the company cannot convert you to short call for the following day once the daily reserve overview is published. And as long call you have a 24 hr RAP for the duration of your reserve block.
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