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03-27-2020 | 09:04 AM
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I’ll try to keep this unemotional and factual but being ****ed off doesn’t even begin to cover it. I was grateful for the chance/offer but....
You've got plenty of time. I’m a recent new hire sent home in the middle of training. Others in training had it worse than me, such as having their training cancelled within hours of their LOE ride brief. However, what we all have in common is that we are being sent home with no time line of a return date other than “when the planes start flying again and the passengers come back.” We are being kept on training pay with benefits. It’s better than nothing sure but is it really? We can’t file for unemployment which would pay us more. Also, they made this decision knowing that even if we could “flow back” to our much better paying and relatively senior position at our last jobs, those doors were closed because either the companies are gone or are furloughing. 39 of us are being held at training pay for an indefinite period to “preserve cash.” The company stated they don’t know if/when they will take bailout money because it all depends on “the strings attached.” The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.
I know nothing is guaranteed and industry is very unpredictable however all of us in my class planned to get through the program and made preparations for the financial realities of training. What we didn’t plan on was getting held onto until a point that everyone knew pretty much every door was closed to then be left mostly with a crap sandwich UFN.
ALPA weighed in. They were caught of guard by this and the legal guys are looking into it but based on the RLA and the contract we are at will employees with zero protections until IOE completion.
I’m sure I will catch heat for this because that’s what APC does. I really couldn’t care less. I may be ruining my chances at JB. DOX me or whatever it’s called. I’m not planning on holding out for the call back because my family deserves better than burning through our emergency funds for this. I figured the word should get out about the #caring and #integrity occurring to preserve cash.
You've got plenty of time. I’m a recent new hire sent home in the middle of training. Others in training had it worse than me, such as having their training cancelled within hours of their LOE ride brief. However, what we all have in common is that we are being sent home with no time line of a return date other than “when the planes start flying again and the passengers come back.” We are being kept on training pay with benefits. It’s better than nothing sure but is it really? We can’t file for unemployment which would pay us more. Also, they made this decision knowing that even if we could “flow back” to our much better paying and relatively senior position at our last jobs, those doors were closed because either the companies are gone or are furloughing. 39 of us are being held at training pay for an indefinite period to “preserve cash.” The company stated they don’t know if/when they will take bailout money because it all depends on “the strings attached.” The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.
I know nothing is guaranteed and industry is very unpredictable however all of us in my class planned to get through the program and made preparations for the financial realities of training. What we didn’t plan on was getting held onto until a point that everyone knew pretty much every door was closed to then be left mostly with a crap sandwich UFN.
ALPA weighed in. They were caught of guard by this and the legal guys are looking into it but based on the RLA and the contract we are at will employees with zero protections until IOE completion.
I’m sure I will catch heat for this because that’s what APC does. I really couldn’t care less. I may be ruining my chances at JB. DOX me or whatever it’s called. I’m not planning on holding out for the call back because my family deserves better than burning through our emergency funds for this. I figured the word should get out about the #caring and #integrity occurring to preserve cash.
03-27-2020 | 09:13 AM
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I do know of the fund and the union did a good job of telling us about it. I made the choice to wait until after training to contribute. Apparently that was the wrong choice. Thank you for the info.
03-27-2020 | 09:17 AM
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I think you can change your contribution any time in BCSS? Minimum for first year is $5 to qualify I believe.
03-27-2020 | 09:20 AM
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edit: apparently we don’t qualify until after IOE and this isn’t viewed as a hardship. 🤷♂️
Last edited by RegionalRetread; 03-27-2020 at 10:02 AM.
03-27-2020 | 10:58 AM
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I’ll try to keep this unemotional and factual but being ****ed off doesn’t even begin to cover it. I was grateful for the chance/offer but....
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The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.
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The horrible math in public equals out to a couple million per year. I would have hoped our core values were worth more than that. There’s also no word on any longevity benefits so if we stick around we could be on training pay a very long time. We’ve been told we will keep our seniority number.
If you're able to, please stick around. The JB pilot group needs more people who recognize and call out BS and stand up for themselves.
03-27-2020 | 12:21 PM
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I’m also sorry to hear this RegionalRetread. I know some in training who were sent home on training pay; one was a day before his checkride. I couldn’t disagree more with the company’s choice to do this. Especially when they’re flying Trans-cons with 3 people on them. Literally just burning through cash. When it comes to the bottom line, we’re all just a number. They can preach all that caring, culture BS all they want. At the end of the day, doesn’t mean sh!t.
03-27-2020 | 07:22 PM
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Look at the bright side. You should have a seniority number and DOH, which means:
1) Training pay will continue regardless of where you live, where you work, or how much you’re paid outside of JetBlue.
2) You and your dependents can non-rev without limitation on JetBlue.
3) You go to Year 2 and Year 3 pay, etc, on your DOH anniversary no matter how long you await training.
4) You should have medical benefits and company 401 contributions per the CBA.
5) You may even have jumpseat privileges.
6) You get to experience, firsthand, all the #caring that JetBlue has to offer, and you’ve only been here a month.
1) Training pay will continue regardless of where you live, where you work, or how much you’re paid outside of JetBlue.
2) You and your dependents can non-rev without limitation on JetBlue.
3) You go to Year 2 and Year 3 pay, etc, on your DOH anniversary no matter how long you await training.
4) You should have medical benefits and company 401 contributions per the CBA.
5) You may even have jumpseat privileges.
6) You get to experience, firsthand, all the #caring that JetBlue has to offer, and you’ve only been here a month.
03-27-2020 | 08:17 PM
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Look at the bright side. You should have a seniority number and DOH, which means:
1) Training pay will continue regardless of where you live, where you work, or how much you’re paid outside of JetBlue.
2) You and your dependents can non-rev without limitation on JetBlue.
3) You go to Year 2 and Year 3 pay, etc, on your DOH anniversary no matter how long you await training.
4) You should have medical benefits and company 401 contributions per the CBA.
5) You may even have jumpseat privileges.
6) You get to experience, firsthand, all the #caring that JetBlue has to offer, and you’ve only been here a month.
1) Training pay will continue regardless of where you live, where you work, or how much you’re paid outside of JetBlue.
2) You and your dependents can non-rev without limitation on JetBlue.
3) You go to Year 2 and Year 3 pay, etc, on your DOH anniversary no matter how long you await training.
4) You should have medical benefits and company 401 contributions per the CBA.
5) You may even have jumpseat privileges.
6) You get to experience, firsthand, all the #caring that JetBlue has to offer, and you’ve only been here a month.
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