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Old 09-14-2022, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Its not an insult to the whole group. Just like here, some people are willing to fight for what we are worth, but the facts are undeniable. Both our groups are dominated by "battered wives". Have you been over to their forum? Its all bellyaching over being at a 135 outfit/regional for 15 years and how great NK is compared to that. I get that they walked, and that's great, but at the end of the day they ratified a contract that was well below market rate.

I expect more of the same coming here. Its not an insult, its the truth. They ratified multiple CBAs to get to be among the lowest paid. Just like us.
Yeah well you wrote it as an insult to the whole group.

It says you joined the forum in 2017, so you've had enough exposure to the bs that's shared here. I won't judge the JetBlue pilot group based on what I read here, and I'm sure the vast majority of JetBlue pilots will not judge the Spirt group based on this forum either.
If all of the participants here think before clicking "submit reply" it sure would help the experience.
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Old 09-15-2022, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DEM1933
Yeah well you wrote it as an insult to the whole group.

It says you joined the forum in 2017, so you've had enough exposure to the bs that's shared here. I won't judge the JetBlue pilot group based on what I read here, and I'm sure the vast majority of JetBlue pilots will not judge the Spirt group based on this forum either.
If all of the participants here think before clicking "submit reply" it sure would help the experience.
I said "a bunch of low self esteem pilots". I stand by that. I didn't say all of them, but there are a bunch of them. BTW that statement goes for a bunch of B6 pilots as well, which is why the OP should move on to where the group stands up for itself. UAL just sent a 16% pay increase back with prejudice, DAL did the same a few years ago.

A significant portion of our group would vote yes to a pay CUT if they put it to a vote. If that's not low self esteem I don't know what is.
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Old 09-15-2022, 04:35 AM
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I should let this go because anybody on here can read it for themselves, but interesting how changing one word softens the blow.

Group = the whole, while “a bunch” = …what, 20 guys?

Personally I’m optimistic about this merger, but a great JCBA will require unity.
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Old 09-15-2022, 05:57 AM
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Has anyone recently made it to Phase II and done the background, drug test and finger prints and then haven’t heard anything from the company?
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCflier12
Has anyone recently made it to Phase II and done the background, drug test and finger prints and then haven’t heard anything from the company?
I got the CJO 52 hours after I walked out of the building for my interview. I was the first done. I got the phase 2 invite same day of my interview. Within 4 hours. I think most of my class was the same but not everyone. Give it time. I’m sure there’s lots of people they have to go over.
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:03 AM
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Any training delays on the 190?
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RadioFlyer123
I got the CJO 52 hours after I walked out of the building for my interview. I was the first done. I got the phase 2 invite same day of my interview. Within 4 hours. I think most of my class was the same but not everyone. Give it time. I’m sure there’s lots of people they have to go over.
out of curiosity how fast after updating your DOB &SSN did they send you the next forms/email?
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:16 AM
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out of curiosity how fast after updating your DOB &SSN did they send you the next forms/email?
Next business day. So 16-20 hours for all of the different emails to come through? I filled the form out immediately.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DEM1933
I should let this go because anybody on here can read it for themselves, but interesting how changing one word softens the blow.

Group = the whole, while “a bunch” = …what, 20 guys?

Personally I’m optimistic about this merger, but a great JCBA will require unity.
Perhaps 50% or more. However many it takes to vote in bottom tier contracts. Just like here.

I'd love to be proven wrong in the JCBA, but I won't.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RadioFlyer123
Next business day. So 16-20 hours for all of the different emails to come through? I filled the form out immediately.
Great, thanks!
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