I’ll probably be the most junior in my class. Think I’ll get JFK 320? I don’t want the 190. Would it be smart to do BOS 320 and base trade to JFK if I can’t get JFK initially?

Or LAX 320 and base trade to JFK?

 

If you are going to work for B6 get used to never hearing from leadership/nobody making a decision, long delays, and little care given to your stress level/QOL.

 

I'd put your chances at getting the JFK320 < 50%. If I were a new hire I'd probably go for the 190 though. Just faster movement, no redeye.

 

Through the last effective date of next year, only 478 people have been awarded Jfk 320 FO, with something like 778 guys being awarded JFK 320 CA. So in theory, if those numbers end up close by EOY 2023, if you started tomorrow and got JFK 320 FO, you’d end next year at 61.5% RS, which isn’t bad at all. Doing the same for the 190 is about 32/125, or about 25%. Factoring in attrition, each will likely be slightly better. But it’s not like the old days of hiring only 200 a year and all the 2 year seat locked 190 guys coming over on top of the bottom 320 guys causing lots of stagnation. My old advice to guys was to do the 190 for 1-2 years, then go to then 320. But, nowadays, I’m not sure between the garbage plane that is the 190, and that extra 5-6 weeks in MCO, it’s worth it. I’d prob go straight to the bus if I were starting soon.

 

Are monthly base trades permanent or can the person you trade with go back after 1 month? I figure if I get any 320 base other than JFK that it’ll be easy to base trade into.

I’m good with red eyes as a commuter. I’m used to it from medevac life.

 

Base trades are permanent until you trade back or are awarded something else in a bid.

 

For those that have interviewed recently:

1. For the flight experience page, it says do not include any dual received time. Only PIC time where you signed off for the flight. So I am assuming this includes any dual instruction where you also logged PIC? This would eliminate a decent chunk of training hours. Not that I wouldn't meet the experience requirement without those hours, but just curious.
2. Building off the above question, did/should your resume have more hours than what you fill out on this form then? My total time includes everything obviously from hour 0 to now. Just don't wanna be caught with any discrepancies because I misunderstood the instructions.
3. "Wet ink" signatures on LORs: does this mean something like Docusign digital signatures are invalid? I am assuming I need to have people print, sign, scan, and email me a copy of those. Big favor to ask when a lot of my best LORs come from around the country and I can't travel for a physical signature.

Any other advice pertaining to interview documents is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

1 - I included PIC where it was also dual received. Didn't bring up any questions. I think that "only PIC where you signed for it" is more for 135 ops if you logged PIC as sole manipulator but not PIC on the release. I came from the 135/91k world but always logged SIC if I was SIC on paper, so it was easy.

2 - My total time on my app/resume was higher than the form, no questions were asked. Fill out the form as best as you can, based on what it asks for. The only "questions" I got asked were why I had multi-piston timed logged as SIC (about 20hrs). Told them one of my previous companies had an SIC exemption that allowed us to log SIC time on 135 legs. It was a "oh ok cool, just wanted to make sure that wasn't dual received time, a lot of guys put that in there." My "logbook review" was about 15 seconds.

3 - Print/sign/scan is fine.

Good luck!

 

Yeah, that’s called working for *any* airline in 2022. From DAL to FDX, I can’t think of anyone who isn’t picketing.

 

Thank you sir, very much appreciated.