ZapBrannigan

You're sucking the fun out of this job offer. ;-)

UAL, DAL, AA, FedEx, SWA, and Air Uzbakistan haven't called. Only jetblue. That's the only decision I have to make at the moment.

Climbto450

I think you mean the 3 year upgrade on the 190. The last bid had Junior E190 captain hired in late 2010 seniority #2040. I am not starting an argument I am just putting out the facts. Upgrade to reserve Bos/JFK captain E190 will be quick because not many people want it and 320 FO of same seniority can do better comp an QOL.

alvrb211

Its not just widebodies and seniority!

Look at just about every measurable category, including superior pay at other majors on narrow body medium sized equipment.

Jb guys will never touch the legacy Pilots absent a CBA.


JJ

alvrb211

No worries man. You have implied you have apps elsewhere. Just keep your eyes open. See things for what they are, and give the used car salesmen "you will encounter" a very wide berth.


JJ

flyinaway411

We must all make sure this individual never works here!! TOTD lifetime achievement award.

http://youtu.be/YzOWUT_aWVo

Spoilers

Is this a joke? jetBlueS Airways... Haha.

Bluedriver

Sorry, even with the same pay and Benes, a career will still be FAR more valuable at a legacy with fast seniority and high paying widebody fleets.

benzoate

If you have nothing better to do take the job. It will certainly help your prospects of getting a legacy job.

What most of us want from a new hire is to be educated. Understand the facts as to what jetblue truly is.

If you like it, make it a career. If you don't, move on. While you are here do your best to make it a better place for those who stay. Coming in with the attitude that jetblue can do no wrong, Dave will take care of me, or unionization is bad does nothing more than provide management further munitions to gut our benefits and protections.

Nothing would be worse than being unemployed in three years because we failed to fight for the protections that would have provided us fair seniority integration.

Last year American offered Jetblue an NDA to begin the acquisition process. This is a well publicized fact. Delta, in a not so public manner, attempted the same in 2007. Southwest has been rumored to have done the same. We have at least 1193 pilots who believe management will do the "right thing". What they fail to realize when the next airline attempts a T/E is almost every airline has a holding company which can buy Jetblue. That makes our PEA's moot and managements "do the right thing" claim moot.

In the end all the talk of pay or benefits mean very little without proper scope or merger protection.


This is what the current Jetblue is all about. While every airline job is a gamble the odds on this one are currently skewed in greater favor to the house. Again, choose wisely, weigh your options and have a back up plan.

ZapBrannigan

I appreciate that. I still don't know what I'll do, but I can say this.

In the last 18 years I've worked for 5 airlines (1 major, 1 LCC, 3 regionals) and a corporate flight department. Been ALPA for 3 carriers and teamsters for one. Been non union for about half that time and seen work rules and schedules changed and suspended with little or no notice.

So if I do end up joining you, you're getting someone with eyes wide open. I've heard the "5 year upgrade" lie at several carriers. I've heard "you've had your last job interview" and "you've just won the lottery" several times. I have grown up with this profession and I can't be fooled anymore. I've seen it all too many times.

benzoate

Then welcome aboard. Like any airline job use it for what you need 'cause lord knows they get their money out of you.