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Old 03-07-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by alphasierra01 View Post
Any word on whether JetBlue will be at Sun n' Fun this year?
Yes they attend every year
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Old 03-07-2016, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alphasierra01 View Post
Any word on whether JetBlue will be at Sun n' Fun this year?
Jetblue Facebook and sun n fun website.
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Old 03-07-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02 View Post
Yes they attend every year

Just not the career fair this year it looks like.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
The union needs to focus on fighting for increased pay and QOL. People using JB as a stepping stone will only help in that battle as the company has to absorb additional training costs and encounters staffing issues.
I have to respectfully disagree;

The union can't be such (I.E. A Union) if some of the guys are not united in the goals.

Unfortunately it's cheaper to train a new guy than to pay a senior guy, and stuffing is not an issue when pilots have to aggressively pick open time to make industry standards pay checks.

This is not a regional, we don't benefit from other pilots leaving.
We benefits from being united in the effort to make this the best place.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
Guarantee some sort of contract will be involved in this to shoot that down. They have a fit now when someone bails after a year, nevermind one of their 90 day wonders
Contract or no contract I want to know what the process is if a guy is not doing well in training. How many chances will that person get until they're asked to leave the program? They compared this to military flight training which is an absolute joke and insulting to our military in my opinion. They have a washout rate that I'm sure is much higher than this program will be. If someone washes out will Jetblue keep the $125,000 or give it back? Bit of a conflict of interest there.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
Contract or no contract I want to know what the process is if a guy is not doing well in training. How many chances will that person get until they're asked to leave the program? They compared this to military flight training which is an absolute joke and insulting to our military in my opinion. They have a washout rate that I'm sure is much higher than this program will be. If someone washes out will Jetblue keep the $125,000 or give it back? Bit of a conflict of interest there.
You'll have to ask Warren Christie. He and Bonnie Simi spearheaded this program. Warren and Bonnie have trained at a legacy plus Warren went through military training...what could possibly go wrong???

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Old 03-08-2016, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
Contract or no contract I want to know what the process is if a guy is not doing well in training. How many chances will that person get until they're asked to leave the program? They compared this to military flight training which is an absolute joke and insulting to our military in my opinion. They have a washout rate that I'm sure is much higher than this program will be. If someone washes out will Jetblue keep the $125,000 or give it back? Bit of a conflict of interest there.
If you pay ALLATPs 60k or whatever it costs now... and fail your check rides, do you get your money back? If you go to college and fail the classes do you get a refund? That's a big chunk of change on the line.

Totally agree with above.
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:34 AM
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Any FLL guys think it's funny one of today's featured articles in the Corporate Daily News?
Behind the scenes at Quito's airports -- old and new
I'm from Quito, let me tell you something to all FLL pilots, Quito airport is the most challenging airport in South America, specially in Summer time, you will see in your ND (navigation display) the wind and the direction.... It's really crazy..!!!. Also you will see when you approach to rwy 18, are many go arounds there, is not just because the cross wind, is because you have the wind coming from every where, and at the end you will get tail winds with more than the Airbus limitation...very fun.... and try to find another one in Cuenca City "Mariscal Lamar airport" is like you are landing into a regular avenue, short, narrow with all houses around.
I'm a A320 F.O for Avianca based in Quito-Ecuador, and very happy to see JetBlue Airbus landing here, welcome to all fellows JB pilots.

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Old 03-08-2016, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlood View Post
I have to respectfully disagree;

The union can't be such (I.E. A Union) if some of the guys are not united in the goals.

Unfortunately it's cheaper to train a new guy than to pay a senior guy, and stuffing is not an issue when pilots have to aggressively pick open time to make industry standards pay checks.

This is not a regional, we don't benefit from other pilots leaving.
We benefits from being united in the effort to make this the best place.
Staffing isn't an issue right now but The company is obviously concerned about long term staffing issues. The pilot shortage is hitting the lower paying regionals now. Barring some sort of economic depression it will hit the ULCCs then JB.

Pilots leaving for the better paying legacies only help your argument for better pay and QOL because the company fears the pilot shortage will hit them eventually.

Happy and content pilot groups don't get paid more money. Every pilot I know at JetBlue is happy but you guys threw a large vote of no confidence by unionizing so hopefully you can leverage that into more money but unionizing is a one trick pony. Once it the newness wears off then you'll need another source of leverage.

Management has no incentive to pay you more as long as pilots stay at the company and pick up open time. Why pay you more when you're happy with what you make now so much that most of you stay and you're even willing to work open time at the rates they pay you now?

The union needs to be citing every example of someone leaving the company, where they went and what that company pay scale is. If the losses are small management will argue that they're obviously paying you the right amount. If the losses are large you have better ability to argue that your pay is sub standard and they'll be left without a chair when the music stops and the hiring shortage hits.

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Old 03-08-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
How many of the 29 e190 pilots in the new class are going to BOS?
As far as I know, they are all JFK.
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