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Old 04-24-2016 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mash Potatoes
I told him that I love the culture. They tend to hire the crew members that I've enjoyed flying with the most. These are the type of captains that I hoped to be like someday. I told him that I thought I'd fit in well here. I also told him that I liked the Orlando base and commuting options out of JAX for BOS and JFK. He asked me if I could get 3 internal letters of rec for my interview. I got 5 before receiving my TBNT email.


The commuting/base options is what killed your answer, I'm betting.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I really do. I know it's easier to come on these boards and complain. I really do love working here. It's the best job I've ever had and I don't take for granted the opportunity Jetblue gave me. This is a company I have no plans to ever leave and hope I retire from one day.

However, I cannot give the recruiting department the benefit of the doubt on this. so far three different people have gotten a thanks but no thanks from the phone interview. I'd never heard of one person in the past 3 years getting a TBNT from a phone interview. Now if someone is omitting something or saying they want to work at southwest obviously get rid of them. But as one of them has posted that's not the case. If professionalism is the desire of our recruiting department I expect the same from them. Stringing guys along for months in phase 2, with absolutely no communication, just to send a TBNT email or phone call is not professional. Giving guys a TBNT email from a phone interview that asks one question is not professional.

This was my fourth airline interview and I have been hired for a number of different jobs outside aviation and our process is by far the worst. I will say everyone I've personally met involved in the process have been great, HR side and pilot side. I just think the system is flawed.
For the last two years the polices have gotten an update every month explaining everything to them. Access to a human being for any question they have, not sure where your getting your info. No other airline gives them the experience we do.Period.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
For the last two years the polices have gotten an update every month explaining everything to them. Access to a human being for any question they have, not sure where your getting your info. No other airline gives them the experience we do.Period.
I'm getting my info from what I and others have experienced in the past. I'm glad to hear that that is no longer the case. As far as no other airline giving an interviewee this experience I don't understand what that means. Like I said this is my fourth airline. My three previous airlines gave me a definitive answer that I was hired within a couple of weeks. One was the day I interviewed, one was within a week and the others I believe was less than 2 weeks. None of this phase 2 nonsense where you sit in limbo for months, having a heart attack every time a FedEx truck pulls up out front or checking your email every 10 minutes for an update. Or having Jetblue ask you to go to a regional to get experience AFTER you've already been put in phase 2! There's no defending those decisions.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 09:14 AM
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This is typical of airline mid management, but especially pervasive at JB. Justify your job by making it seem important. Anybody can call an applicant and confirm answers/numbers from an app. When you or your boss, however, gives the power of the rubber stamp approval, now you and your position are more important. In all likelihood the person stamping or not stamping "YES" to the phone interview is an entry level HR person with just enough power to wield it...and they will...to some one else's detriment. If they don't then they are just simply a data analyst, and not a talent acquisition expert. What sounds better on their next resume?
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Old 04-24-2016 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by crash312
This is typical of airline mid management, but especially pervasive at JB. Justify your job by making it seem important. Anybody can call an applicant and confirm answers/numbers from an app. When you or your boss, however, gives the power of the rubber stamp approval, now you and your position are more important. In all likelihood the person stamping or not stamping "YES" to the phone interview is an entry level HR person with just enough power to wield it...and they will...to some one else's detriment. If they don't then they are just simply a data analyst, and not a talent acquisition expert. What sounds better on their next resume?
Spot on analysis
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Old 04-24-2016 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
The commuting/base options is what killed your answer, I'm betting.
Plenty of commuters in the last few classes.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
No other airline gives them the experience we do.Period.
Agree with this part of your quote. We have one of the most Byzantine hiring processes of any airline..... Maybe you're hired, maybe you're not.

To the guys getting unexpected TBNT notices after the phone screen, chin up. I have a few really good friends who have been chunked out of phase 2, all enjoying careers now at United, FedEx, and Delta respectively. And one who really wanted this place to be it, but interviewed, was hired, and started training at AA while he sat in "phase 2" limbo for 7 months. Everything seems to happen for a reason.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aewanabe
Agree with this part of your quote. We have one of the most Byzantine hiring processes of any airline..... Maybe you're hired, maybe you're not.

To the guys getting unexpected TBNT notices after the phone screen, chin up. I have a few really good friends who have been chunked out of phase 2, all enjoying careers now at United, FedEx, and Delta respectively. And one who really wanted this place to be it, but interviewed, was hired, and started training at AA while he sat in "phase 2" limbo for 7 months. Everything seems to happen for a reason.
I'll plus one this. Almost to the letter my experience exactly.

If you get the TBNT letter reapply at first opportunity. Two good buds got in on the second round.

Good luck dudes
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Old 04-24-2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Plenty of commuters in the last few classes.


Sure, but I'm betting none of them said, "I really like the JetBlue bases" when asked why they wanted to work at JetBlue.
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Old 04-24-2016 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
The commuting/base options is what killed your answer, I'm betting.
That's what I think too. Why giving the extra information that you already decided you going to commute?
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