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Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,327
This is how little the company thinks of your contract.
They could’ve chosen to implement the parts of the NEA allowed under loa 12 but they decided to ignore your vote and scope and move forward with blatantly violating your contract.
Even if you voted yes this should make your furious.
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If I were you I would just buy the $99 dollar fare at 6pm, the others are a bit pricey in comparison.
edit: charge that battery mate.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 704
This is how little the company thinks of your contract.
They could’ve chosen to implement the parts of the NEA allowed under loa 12 but they decided to ignore your vote and scope and move forward with blatantly violating your contract.
Even if you voted yes this should make your furious.
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Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,188
I loved the video by Jim when he was said ‘I don’t give a F what your contract says, we are going to do whatever we want anyways.’ Hopefully our mec will grow a pair and stand up for the group and not tell the arbitrator just give us a 2% raise
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
So why even bother to pay us what we’re due? Why stop at scope? Just cut pay and whatever else at will. It’s a pandemic afterall.
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 8
Fox3 LOA 13
God bless them, I couldn’t do their job nor is it my desire. However, I confess it’s hard to believe the sincerity of this B6 blast when the LOA13 sell job demonstrated such a positive bias. See reference below.
The Company’s actions are not only a violation of what it obviously knows are its contractual obligations, they are an affront to every JetBlue pilot’s sense of fair dealing and to the very values management professes shape our workplace.
The Company’s actions are not only a violation of what it obviously knows are its contractual obligations, they are an affront to every JetBlue pilot’s sense of fair dealing and to the very values management professes shape our workplace.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 983
Every other pilot group should be watching this closely. If by some chance the arbitrator rules in favor of the company, it will set a terrible precedent. Airline managements across the industry will be coming after your contracts as well. Bet on that. As it stands, our management has permanently destroyed any working relationship we had with them. This is a far cry from the company that hired me. #integrity
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
This is one very humble dudes opinion:
The company has spent months and millions planning the NEA. They want it, they want it bad, they want it NOW.
The LOA that allows them to do it within pilots scope clause just failed. The company can't say "hey we know this failed, but we need/want this really bad, we hear you, you want profit sharing (and protections) so let's work this out". They can't say that, puts the leverage in the pilots hands.
Instead they are announcing the launch of the NEA to the world, because they want it bad, and they want it now. Their message to the pilots is "we're doing it anyway", not because they think they will win the arbitration, because I think they know they won't, but this way they can launch the NEA now like they want and this buys them 60 days to work out a mutual agreement with the pilots. However, right now we are in the Ford and Harrison "expectations lowering" phase. For the next 1-3 weeks the company will just say "sorry, not sorry" to get pilots used to the idea that they have lost and the company is just going to do it anyway.
At some point in the coming weeks the company will re-engage with ALPA to try and find a mutually agreeable agreement. In my opinion, they can NOT run out the 60 day clock and get a ruling in the pilots favor, as it would put all the cards in the pilots hands.
If the union quickly moves forward with a survey, I believe it is because the company has told them behind the scenes that talks will start again.
I believe the FC-FC and FC-International scope is clear and explicit, and I don't think the company expects to win. They are posturing and managing expectations.
That is my opinion. We will know within the next few months, or less, if I'm right.
The company has spent months and millions planning the NEA. They want it, they want it bad, they want it NOW.
The LOA that allows them to do it within pilots scope clause just failed. The company can't say "hey we know this failed, but we need/want this really bad, we hear you, you want profit sharing (and protections) so let's work this out". They can't say that, puts the leverage in the pilots hands.
Instead they are announcing the launch of the NEA to the world, because they want it bad, and they want it now. Their message to the pilots is "we're doing it anyway", not because they think they will win the arbitration, because I think they know they won't, but this way they can launch the NEA now like they want and this buys them 60 days to work out a mutual agreement with the pilots. However, right now we are in the Ford and Harrison "expectations lowering" phase. For the next 1-3 weeks the company will just say "sorry, not sorry" to get pilots used to the idea that they have lost and the company is just going to do it anyway.
At some point in the coming weeks the company will re-engage with ALPA to try and find a mutually agreeable agreement. In my opinion, they can NOT run out the 60 day clock and get a ruling in the pilots favor, as it would put all the cards in the pilots hands.
If the union quickly moves forward with a survey, I believe it is because the company has told them behind the scenes that talks will start again.
I believe the FC-FC and FC-International scope is clear and explicit, and I don't think the company expects to win. They are posturing and managing expectations.
That is my opinion. We will know within the next few months, or less, if I'm right.
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