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01-15-2022, 08:43 AM

#12121

nuball5

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Originally Posted by 814Pilot

Is the A220 / A320 training going on schedule or are they as bad as the 190?

Your quickest way out of the schoolhouse is probably A220. Delays aside, the 220 program is much more refreshed and streamlined versus 190 and 320.

01-15-2022, 08:45 AM

#12122

babyhands75

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220

Has anything been mentioned on future 220 bases? Where/when could we likely see the next 220 base open?

01-15-2022, 09:03 AM

#12123

SoarHigh757

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Position: CRJ-200 FO

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Originally Posted by babyhands75

Has anything been mentioned on future 220 bases? Where/when could we likely see the next 220 base open?

During the pilot social, Scott said he was expecting FLL next, but probably not until 2023 or 2024. He said that plane could open up more central and South American routes as well as replace some of the less efficient 190 flights that pass through FLL.

01-15-2022, 12:15 PM

#12124

PotatoChip

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Originally Posted by SoarHigh757

And then he quit.

01-15-2022, 12:18 PM

#12125

Your name here

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The 220 was the junior AC in the last class

01-15-2022, 07:18 PM

#12126

Arkcyph

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Position: Captain

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NEW CBA

The CBA signed in 2018 is approaching 4 years come this year. Any word yet as to if y’all are in talks for a new CBA and what the new pay rates may look like?

01-15-2022, 08:06 PM

#12127

BeatNavy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkcyph

The CBA signed in 2018 is approaching 4 years come this year. Any word yet as to if y’all are in talks for a new CBA and what the new pay rates may look like?

$369/hr for captains. $269/hr for FOs.

01-15-2022, 08:12 PM

#12128

knewyork

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkcyph

The CBA signed in 2018 is approaching 4 years come this year. Any word yet as to if y’all are in talks for a new CBA and what the new pay rates may look like?

It’s amendable in July and no details have been put out yet. All I’ll say is it’s up to them to stop the attrition of pilots or it’ll get even more ugly for the operation.

01-15-2022, 11:09 PM

#12129

TangoIndiaMike1

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Position: Captain for Skyhawks

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Originally Posted by BeatNavy

$369/hr for captains. $269/hr for FOs.

Year one correct?

I Looked around a little bit, anyone know what the training pay is?

01-16-2022, 02:48 AM

#12130

SoarHigh757

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Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1

Year one correct?

I Looked around a little bit, anyone know what the training pay is?

$28.57/hr at 70 hours per month, so $2000 pre-tax. After normal taxes and health care expenses, most of my classmates seemed to take home around $1450-1600 a month.

I truly hope the pay is either improved for the future, or at least the time allowed at that rate is capped. I don’t see why new hires should be punished for the rapidly ballooning training footprint (particularly on the E190). I understood if it was only 6 weeks and you had lodging/food provided, but when being sent home for multiple weeks after indoc, followed by multi-day to week gaps between training blocks, it’s frustrating.