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02-18-2021 | 03:17 PM

#11141

pilotpayne

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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

See my post before yours. They had a plan for if it failed, they play chess, pilots usually play checkers, or patty-cake.

But not this time

I agree with you. They have to play the game.

02-18-2021 | 04:12 PM

#11142

Flyhayes

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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer

Totally agree. My concern is that they tell everyone they’re just going to do it and you lost out on a 2% raise. In a few weeks they offer a 2.5% raise and they get their 51% yes vote. That’s what worries me.

Hopefully enough of the yes voters begin to see how little mgmt respects the pilot group and gets a sour taste from it.

02-18-2021 | 04:16 PM

#11143

ClncClarence

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Originally Posted by Flyhayes

Hopefully enough of the yes voters begin to see how little mgmt respects the pilot group and gets a sour taste from it.

Regardless of how anyone voted, they should he pi$$ed that the company was so brazenly and publicly willing to violate the CBA. The one that they signed.

Would love to hear one of them explain how these actions align with their Integrity value.

02-18-2021 | 04:20 PM

#11144

Ted Striker

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Can we exclude the yes voters from any potential surveys since we already know where they stand?

02-18-2021 | 04:20 PM

#11145

Boomer

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From: blueJet

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Originally Posted by ClncClarence

...Would love to hear one of them explain how these actions align with their Integrity value.

”Dont discuss this with your crew during a flight. Safety first.”

02-18-2021 | 04:24 PM

#11146

The701Express

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From: 1Durrty5

Don't hyper focus on whatever percentage the COLA raise is. Instead focus on the scope language that protects our jobs. A five, ten, twenty percent raise doesn't mean jack if we can't depend on having a quality job five, ten, or twenty years down the road.

The company has shown what little regard they have for our CBA. Early openers for CBA 2.0 aren't until next year, but negotiations have effectively begun. We know the company's opening position now. Act accordingly.

02-18-2021 | 04:39 PM

#11147

Boomer

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Originally Posted by The701Express

...We know the company's opening position now..

And now they know ours as well.

02-18-2021 | 04:47 PM

#11148

stanherman

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From: Hack pilot

The first real step should be recalling all MEC who voted in favor for sending this trash to a pilot vote.

02-18-2021 | 04:48 PM

#11149

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Originally Posted by citxls

The first real step should be recalling all MEC who voted in favor for sending this trash to a pilot vote.

Have to recall the LEC reps in order to recall the MEC. It’s going to be a process.

02-18-2021 | 05:07 PM

#11150

El Peso

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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18

This is how little the company thinks of your contract.

They could’ve chosen to implement the parts of the NEA allowed under loa 12 but they decided to ignore your vote and scope and move forward with blatantly violating your contract.

Even if you voted yes this should make your furious.

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Is this a violation of their contract because it’s between “focus cities”? Also, oddly checking the same date same route on AA.com, there are no flights showing up that are operated by JetBlue.