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06-22-2017, 02:46 PM
#3741
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
So you don't work here, you are annoyed that maybe the FAs knew you didn't need to see the captain, you didn't keep a log of the aircraft but you think it was the 190. All of that gives you the right to bash a large chunk of our pilot group? Cool.
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."
I want you to get market-rate.
06-22-2017, 05:32 PM
#3742
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."
I want you to get market-rate.
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."
I want you to get market-rate.
06-22-2017, 07:54 PM
#3743
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,865
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."
I want you to get market-rate.
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."
I want you to get market-rate.
Maybe you should focus on SWA.
We know our problems and we don't need a lecture from you.
06-22-2017, 08:02 PM
#3744
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 320 FO
Posts: 143
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
06-22-2017, 08:27 PM
#3745
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
What's your beef with stand-up PAs outside of negotiations? I understand why we're not doing them now, but what's your business telling us no stand ups outside that realm, particularly as a non blue pilot?
06-22-2017, 10:25 PM
#3746
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 320 FO
Posts: 143
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
I'm pretty sure it is ALPA saying no stand ups.
Where are you getting all these supposed B6 ALPA memos? From SWAPA?
06-22-2017, 10:48 PM
#3747
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
SWA now, former NJA. I interviewed at JB in 9/2016 and got the offer but it took so long to hear back (1/17) I had already accepted SWA.
06-23-2017, 05:51 AM
#3749
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer
ALPA has not said that. That would be an illegal job action if ALPA put that out. We're expected to maintain the status quo unless released into self help. ALPA knows better than to tell people not to pick up RSAs or anything else (like stand-ups) the company could deem harmful to the company.
Where are you getting all these supposed B6 ALPA memos? From SWAPA?
Where are you getting all these supposed B6 ALPA memos? From SWAPA?
06-23-2017, 05:58 AM
#3750
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,865
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
That is absolutely false.
He has some really strong opinions yet doesn't know what he is talking about.
Insulting and bashing some of our pilots.
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
How are the pilots going to clean 277 seats in just 28 minutes? They'll have to bring a supplemental crew of Boston 190 guys just for the blue glove service.
But hey I guess we are the only one right.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LuP6-CUR0U4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcY5WJa1xQ
Btw those are SWA pilots.
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