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Old 06-22-2017, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
So you don't work here, you are annoyed that maybe the FAs knew you didn't need to see the captain, you didn't keep a log of the aircraft but you think it was the 190. All of that gives you the right to bash a large chunk of our pilot group? Cool.
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.

Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."

I want you to get market-rate.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.

Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."

I want you to get market-rate.
We know what to do buckeye. We don't need your help. Kindly return to the SWA boards.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.

Instead of focusing on me, why don't you turn that frustration to your crewmembers that are actively sabotaging your contract goals by not listening to your MEC and ALPA. Unless you want to keep getting emails that end with: "However, while management's proposal on pay included an increase over their last proposal, it is unacceptable and fell well short of the market-rate standard we have set as our objective."

I want you to get market-rate.
You know yesterday I walked into my neighbors house and told them how bad their kids were and gave them some advice about how to fix it even though I don't live there never have don't know all that much about the dynamics but I do say hello when I am out getting the mail....Oh wait that wouldn't be right would it.
Maybe you should focus on SWA.
We know our problems and we don't need a lecture from you.
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
actually I enjoyed that your FAs were professional enough to not treat every uniformed person as a jumpseater (cough cough AA).
Even us lowly fractional pukes can tell the difference between a 190 and Bus. And I'm not bashing all of the 190 pilots, just the one's that dumpster dive and do standup PAs.
What's your beef with stand-up PAs outside of negotiations? I understand why we're not doing them now, but what's your business telling us no stand ups outside that realm, particularly as a non blue pilot?
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:27 PM
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What's your beef with stand-up PAs outside of negotiations? I understand why we're not doing them now, but what's your business telling us no stand ups outside that realm, particularly as a non blue pilot?
I'm pretty sure it is ALPA saying no stand ups.
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
I'm pretty sure it is ALPA saying no stand ups.
ALPA has not said that. That would be an illegal job action if ALPA put that out. We're expected to maintain the status quo unless released into self help. ALPA knows better than to tell people not to pick up RSAs or anything else (like stand-ups) the company could deem harmful to the company.

Where are you getting all these supposed B6 ALPA memos? From SWAPA?
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
SWA now, former NJA. I interviewed at JB in 9/2016 and got the offer but it took so long to hear back (1/17) I had already accepted SWA.
Dude, SW has a ton of "company men". Every time I fly on them I hear a stupid PA or stand up. Last time we were 2 hours late and the captain made a 5 min PA while the FA rolled her eyes and said to me " he loves himself". Don't throw stones in a glass house. The internet is full of videos of SW guys doing worse than PAs, like playing guitars and singing.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
I'm pretty sure it is ALPA saying no stand ups.
That is absolutely false.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud5urfer View Post
ALPA has not said that. That would be an illegal job action if ALPA put that out. We're expected to maintain the status quo unless released into self help. ALPA knows better than to tell people not to pick up RSAs or anything else (like stand-ups) the company could deem harmful to the company.

Where are you getting all these supposed B6 ALPA memos? From SWAPA?
If not doing a stand up PA is considered an illegal job action, I'll pay off your mortgage.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
That is absolutely false.
And that is my problem with this guy.
He has some really strong opinions yet doesn't know what he is talking about.
Insulting and bashing some of our pilots.
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO View Post
How are the pilots going to clean 277 seats in just 28 minutes? They'll have to bring a supplemental crew of Boston 190 guys just for the blue glove service.
Giving us a hard time about stand up PAs ( I have not made one in a long time)
But hey I guess we are the only one right.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LuP6-CUR0U4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcY5WJa1xQ

Btw those are SWA pilots.
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