IQuitEagle

I agree with most of those points. However, JetBlue is far from the only airline to employ instructors who have never flown the line at their place of employ. I am not saying it is good, just that it is far from uncommon in our industry.

Gordie H

All my instructors had line experience – they ranged from so-so to excellent wrt to instructing ability – but all had line experience. I did meet one Airbus instructor who was a recent retiree from the legacies…last flew the Airbus – so he didn’t have JB line experience but I’d bet he has something to offer with his experience.

Also, cleaning aircraft – I don’t / sharing the crew room – could care less / Caribbean layover – it’s 30 degrees where I am now, doesn’t sound horrible

I don’t doubt these things bug you but idk……I really just want to get paid / work rules, that’s about it.

Bluedriver

Oh good lord. We all know what our West coast expansion plans are.... We literally don't have one. And a contract soon? You were saying that last year... Union emails say FAR apart.

Just let the guy enjoy his new airline, no reason to give him a hard time.

SideFlare

Mad props to Slimothy... I wish you the best and applaud your gracious attitude towards B6. You’re a prime example of what’s going to happen to the FO corps this year, and the loss of pilots like you will be felt. As a relatively junior LGB FO, I worry constantly about the future of the base. Reserve FOs on the west coast are already being utilized to the max, and it’s barely April. This summer is going to be a raging dumpster fire. In the absence of a LEGIT CBA, we are going to see a watershed exodus to the majors. West coast open time consists ENTIRELY of redeye flights, with the occasional “good deal” daytime SFO turn. If you choose to come here, as I did proudly, wear your lanyard, follow union guidelines, and update your apps. Seriously, this place has AMAZING potential, but it’s going to take solidarity and adherence to SOP to make it real. It may never be the culture-loving B6 of yore, but it can hopefully be great none the less. This pilot group makes JetBlue what it is... Don’t cheapen it by bowing to the pressures of those that drink from the company trough. Be positive and support each other. I believe in my MEC and rock my lanyard proudly. Looking forward to the next rally.

hyperboy

It's funny you were at the meeting. They said nothing about what you just said. Can you not understand English?

Please don't do us a disservice........just Tow the LINE!!!! and quit making things up to prop up your narrative.

I go to the meetings so I can inform others. Put the unicorn down! and just inform others of what happened and not make stuff up which you tend to do daily on here....

BunkerF16

1. You sure cleaning will be a part of the new CBA? Me either.
2. So what. How much of your life is spent here. This really a go-no go decision for you?
3. Our OTP sucks right now. No doubt about it. Not my problem. And these tend to ebb and flow. We're worst today. Will we stay there? Who knows. Do I give a sh1t? Nope. Not my problem. As long as my check cashes every 8th/20th, I don't care.
4. Ask AA, UA and even SW pilots what they think about their leadership direction. Especially during labor disputes. You think you'll hear much different than you do with JB? Doubt it.
5. The only reason this ****es me off is because they try and say they can't afford our contract requests, which we all know is BS. If our salary and PS isn't affected with our new CBA, that's white noise I couldn't care less about.
6. Who gives a F about what the culture the company is trying to peddle? Seriously? I go to work. I fly. I go home. Everything else is complete BS and crap I couldn't care about any less.
7. Hotel standards are already TAd. You don't think the quality will improve from what we have now? Seriously? Or are you just trying to come up with reasons to stay mad.
8. Pretty sure JB isn't the only company that does this.

So yeah, I disagree that "This will always be a place pilots are expected to" premise.

Bluedriver

4 days ago:

"The remainder of the sections still require open items to be resolved, some of which we remain significantly apart on."

I said "far" apart, I guess I should have said "significantly" apart. Can you not understand English?

Speaking of the English language, the expression is "Toe the line".

Bluedriver

I flew with the hotel committee chairman not long ago, we was NOT very encouraged. Do you know more than he does?

slimothy

I obviously don’t know for sure yet, but I do know that you are either am or pm, and you know well in advance. So that sounds pretty good, in terms of planning one’s life.

BlueJetDork

Cleaning is in the Crew Member Travel Guide not the FSM or FOM or PEA.

Cleaning is apart of the culture at Jetblue and it WILL remain in the travel guide.