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Old 03-13-2018 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Some guys take critique of B6 personally for some reason.
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Hey jetblue...FUPM,

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Old 03-13-2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by feltf4
Ok that’s what I thought, trip pay protection, plus JRA Prem.. the trip flew like 3.7 hours and away for more than 60 hours, not sure how that all works, but thanks for verifying pay protection + JRA prem
Another little known fact...... the EPS (5 hours JRA/PREM) is a single event regardless of how many days you are extended. I used to think 2 days late would be 2 EPS events but it’s not. You get one, then your TAFB will be rigged at 3.5/1 and liked add straight pay credit to what you started with. Good luck!
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Old 03-13-2018 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
If they were trying to steal it you wouldn’t be able to check the numbers and add a comment. You don’t need to wait till you get your check you can see this stuff almost real time. Do they make mistakes yes as does any payroll department and even us pilots flying planes. There is a ton to be mad at but rainmaker access isn’t one.
OK, I will spell out what is going on for you.

Step 1. They put Prem + JRA on the schedule immediately after the trip.

Step 2. At some point later, when most people will have already checked to make sure it has shown up properly they remove it hoping you won't notice.

Step 3. Some percentage of people dont check again every week and Jetblew gets away with wage theft of those people.

Step 4. $$$

This practice has been noticed by pretty much everyone I know. I myself have recouped multiple thousands of dollars since I caught them the first time. I dont even want to think about how much they stole from me when I still trusted this dump.
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Old 03-13-2018 | 04:39 PM
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Maybe it’s time for someone to start a class action suit for wage theft.
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Old 03-13-2018 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by coopervane
Maybe it’s time for someone to start a class action suit for wage theft.
The problem is when you notice it they *usually* put it back. So the people they are stealing from don't realize it has happened. Even if it is just 5% of the pilots not checking rainmaker it adds up.

It is SUPER common. It mostly happens on existing pairings where everything falls apart, not so much on VDA trips (although it has been a while since I did one of those).

You have to check rainmaker a couple weeks after the trip. The next day won't work as it will be there.
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Old 03-13-2018 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Some guys take critique of B6 personally for some reason.
No I didn’t say I was offended just saying not everything is some conspiracy to steal from pilots. Heck they have been completely open about it when they do.

Point being you can go in and check the work to fix it if it’s wrong
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Old 03-13-2018 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
OK, I will spell out what is going on for you.

Step 1. They put Prem + JRA on the schedule immediately after the trip.

Step 2. At some point later, when most people will have already checked to make sure it has shown up properly they remove it hoping you won't notice.

Step 3. Some percentage of people dont check again every week and Jetblew gets away with wage theft of those people.

Step 4. $$$

This practice has been noticed by pretty much everyone I know. I myself have recouped multiple thousands of dollars since I caught them the first time. I dont even want to think about how much they stole from me when I still trusted this dump.

And I’m sure you have emailed the union about this trick/theft and your CP. You might have yourself a very nice legal case that will get you out of this dump.

As for me I check it a few days before we are payed and then verify through BCSS along with rainmaker that I got paid right.

All of this stuff is coding and no doubt CS dorks something up or payroll might see it differently. I have never had this issue but you guys have so I have to believe you. I’m just saying I do not think some evil person is sitting in payroll with a directve to steal from the pilots pay. (Which is the implication)But that’s me.
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Old 03-13-2018 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
The problem is when you notice it they *usually* put it back. So the people they are stealing from don't realize it has happened. Even if it is just 5% of the pilots not checking rainmaker it adds up.

It is SUPER common. It mostly happens on existing pairings where everything falls apart, not so much on VDA trips (although it has been a while since I did one of those).

You have to check rainmaker a couple weeks after the trip. The next day won't work as it will be there.


If you aren’t checking rainmaker that’s kind of an issue.
I trust my FOs work but I still check it as he does mine.
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Old 03-13-2018 | 05:47 PM
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Fillerr.......
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Old 03-13-2018 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N311JB
Yes, they manually do it. I know JFK has a larger buffer than the rest of the bases. I think its an extra 30 mins. Gotta love our work rules
Nothing special for JFK. Ask the ALPA scheduling guys, they explained it to me and it actually isn't nefarious..
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