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Old 06-26-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
We could go to Hawaii and Keflavik RIGHT NOW! That is, had they only made the INVESTMENT and taken the small RISK 18 months ago to get ETOPS. They CHOSE not to. They chose to codeshare instead.

Do you understand?
So you're angry that they havent made the investment?
Because IF they do, you realize theyll wanna go ahead and have a B6 plane fly it.
Ill state it this way, they only choose to codeshare flights that they ,AT THIS TIME, do not have the ability to fly.
We can argue corporate planning all day long, but as far as codesharing goes, this is the reason they do it.
Do you know why airlines codeshare domestically?
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
MIC drop. BTW, Mark Powers (look it up Bozo) said the same to my face.
He seems to ignore this point.
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:37 AM
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The Dude says chill boys........
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:38 AM
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The Dude says chill boys........
Just watched that! Great reference!
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
The old CFO said personally to me why would I want widebodies or fly trans Atlantic when I can make money putting on other people’s plane and their overhead.
This is what you and BD are mic dropping over?
The "old" CFO?
Ask yourself this question Hill,
If Robin gets the ability to fly to Europe, will he take 1% and codeshare, or take the full fare?
Btw, Im ignoring nothing- you're the guy quoting old executives.
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The Dude says chill boys........
Love the Dude.
And this is just batting practice.
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
This is what you and BD are mic dropping over?
The "old" CFO?
Ask yourself this question Hill,
If Robin gets the ability to fly to Europe, will he take 1% and codeshare, or take the full fare?
Btw, Im ignoring nothing- you're the guy quoting old executives.
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But it is still a legit point. It’s not hard to fly to Hawaii or get stops. We have the ability to fly a lot of places but instead they choose not to
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
How much does Jetblue make on codeshares?
A nickel on the dollar?
Why are they going to do this?
Oh, so you are arguing that code shares aren't profitable. I guess we don't need scope at all then.

If that is the case what is making you vote yes? The sub par work rules or industry trailing pay and profit sharing?
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
So you're angry that they havent made the investment?
Because IF they do, you realize theyll wanna go ahead and have a B6 plane fly it.
Ill state it this way, they only choose to codeshare flights that they ,AT THIS TIME, do not have the ability to fly.
We can argue corporate planning all day long, but as far as codesharing goes, this is the reason they do it.
Do you know why airlines codeshare domestically?
Nope Bozo, I'm not going to let you move the goalposts like that.

You said when B6 CAN fly those routes we codeshare, they will. You later changed it to, you're "guessing" they will.

The problem is they CHOSE to be unable. So, really, they ARE able, but choose not to do it.

It's exactly like this, you say to wife, sex me.

She says, I can't.

You say, what do you mean you can't?

She says I'm choosing to be unable, I'll let you know when I choose to be "can".

The difference between you and me is I understand codesharing and airlinering 125%, and have been told, face to face, man to man, by Bluejet's prior Chief Financial Officer what the Corps overall trans-oceanic philosophy is:

"We prefer to codeshare because it is a low-cost, low-risk way to service those trans-oceanic destinations without investing in the expensive capital intensive resources required to do it ourselves".
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
But it is still a legit point. It’s not hard to fly to Hawaii or get stops. We have the ability to fly a lot of places but instead they choose not to
Okay then argue THAT. But what BD and now you are saying is that B6 owes it to us to get approved for ETOPS and thats nuts.
If approved, do you think robin will go for the 99 or the 1?

Do you understand this point on codeshares Hill?
Im trying to paint this as simple as possible. Dont know why you'd hitch your wagon to BD?!
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