Bozo the pilot

Forget about the reps, Lets talk about codesharing.
Whats your knowledge in the area?
Im not attacking, but the lack of understanding about what codesharing even is, is lacking.
There are limits anyway, but to suggest that jetblue flying is in jeopardy shows a complete misunderstanding of codesharing.
No one will argue that Jetblue wants to make $, so when they can fly it themselves, they do. And they will in the future.
What say you Baba?

Baba Yaga

My post to you was just an FYI and nothing to do with this post. I’m not going to engage on internet fights. I will vote with MY needs in mind I understand you will do the same.

Bozo the pilot

Gotcha Baba.
Good luck to us all in this and I hope this is an intelligent vote and not an emotional one.
This is my 4th airline btw, so I get that there is an inherent sales pitch. Thats why we need multiple sources- Agreed?

Bluedriver

Codesharing has at least two aspects. On the one hand codesharing customers into our network from a destination we *cannot* reach does improve load factor on our existing network and lead to new cities (DTW). Never disputed that. Didn't engage you on that point, intentionally. Doesn't mean I don't understand it Bozo.

The other side of the coin is codesharing to destinations we CAN reach (HNL & KEF *NOW* and soon to be Gatwick, Charles de Gaulle, Shannon, Dublin, Amsterdam, Brussels, Lisbon, Madrid etc...) but choose not to because of the investment and risk. We have instead elected to codeshare and take our "pennies on the dollar" up until now because it's low risk revenue.

Will that change, maybe. Been hearing Europe just a few years away since I got here.

Now I suggest you not insult my understanding of this industry again, as it's idiotic and should be beneath your debate skills.

Bluedriver

You're just an Auto-NO who doesn't understand codesharing.

Bozo the pilot

You called DTW an idiotic example- Would you prefer Cleveland?
You still dont get it,
B6, when able, will fly these routes themselves.
Reason: 99% of the fare instead of 1% codeshare.
Even domestic codesharing leads to growth, but Im not typing down that entire monologue so youd have to call, which I know you fear.
Im not calling you stupid, but your understanding of this is skewed.
It casts a shadow on posts from when we were in agreement, and that bothers me a little to be honest.

Bluedriver

I said DBX is idiotic moron. That's Dubai not DTW.

We could fly to Honolulu and Keflavik with our CURRENT fleet, yet we instead codeshare those routes.

Again, this is way beneath what should be your level of debate.

Bozo the pilot

Oh and here comes the name-calling.
We mock what we dont understand.
I wont be calling you names BD, but please feel free because you have failed to debate this on its face.
Feel free to discuss JAX-HNL.
I have a few more for you when you'd like to discuss it.

somertime32

So Scope F. 8. B. To me this reads that all our flying out of SJU could be on 50 seat RJs or any sized turboprop. Am I reading that right?

Bluedriver

You are literally delusional. And history has already proven your statement wrong:

"B6, when able" will fly these routes when it can".

Our current fleet can go to Honolulu and Keflavik. And Airbus will sell us longer range aircraft 8 days a week.

We, JB, have CHOSEN not to make the required INVESTMENT and take the RISK. But we CAN and COULD HAVE. We CHOOSE not to. Low risk, low investment, take the pennies on the dollar.

JUST. AS. I. HAVE. SAID. FROM. THE. BEGINNING.

Epic fail, and a very low quality level of debate on your part going with the "you don't understand codesharing" bit.