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Old 08-05-2019, 09:37 AM
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Does anyone believe that past practice of the pilot group is NOT built into the schedule of Jetblue?

Since it is, then a withdrawal normal practice is not harmful to the company?

Is that the position of the apologists?
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609 View Post
No, it'd be a waste of my time, since you won't be listening.
Not surprised that you won't back that up.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
No they donít need to be publicly outed. Ask Spirit pilots how that worked out for them with that website they created for that specific purpose.
The fact that you are a self-admitted habitual VDA/RSA user has no bearing on your general opinion on this subject?
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork View Post
Does anyone believe that past practice of the pilot group is NOT built into the schedule of Jetblue?
Yes, 360 does not believe an airline builds its current and future staffing plans based on historical labor data.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
The fact that you are a self-admitted habitual VDA/RSA user has no bearing on your general opinion on this subject?
I can turn it on and off when I want to. Year by year, month by month. The mortgage isnít paid on VDAs. Slow months Iíll do RES. I also know some ďburn it downĒ types that VDAíd during the dispute so not really indicative of my viewpoint on the subject.

ALPA said donít go down the same road Spirit did, so I donít think Iím alone with how I feel.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
I can turn it on and off when I want to. Year by year, month by month. The mortgage isnít paid on VDAs. Slow months Iíll do RES. I also know some ďburn it downĒ types that VDAíd during the dispute so not really indicative of my viewpoint on the subject.

ALPA said donít get caught trying to intentionally slow down the operation, so I donít think Iím alone here.
Roger all...
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
Yes, 360 does not believe an airline builds its current and future staffing plans based on historical labor data.
Man, where were you 15 years ago when I needed a stranger to put words in my mouth that I never said, or tell me what I was thinking? PM me your PayPal info so I can send you some money!
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
Man, where were you 15 years ago when I needed a stranger to put words in my mouth that I never said, or tell me what I was thinking? PM me your PayPal info so I can send you some money!
Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
VDAs don't cause low staffing.
VDA is part of the marketing schedule and hence staffing.

Waiting for a labor dispute to 'not help' is simply the dumb logic that pilots use to slit their own wrist on a daily basis.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
Man, where were you 15 years ago when I needed a stranger to put words in my mouth that I never said, or tell me what I was thinking? PM me your PayPal info so I can send you some money!
You said on August 4th:

"VDAs don't cause low staffing."

It's just soo cool how you know everything in such a short amount of time, yet you don't even know what you yourself say.
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by likeitis View Post
True. I couldnít care less if people are picking up flying when not in negotiations but it should be known that their historical habits are collected by the company which could be a threat to the success of the next NC. Iíve seen the extent of the data NWA collected in the 90ís so I canít even imagine the level of data they have now with leaps in technology.
I'm just curious about the next step that nobody ever talks about. We stop picking up open time and VDA/RSA because of the labor dispute. The company has the historical data and goes to court to get a TRO or cease and desist. Possibly sues the union. What is next? How exactly do you force a person to work overtime? Does the judge force overtime on a pilot that has historically worked on days off? Seems like all the company can do is sue for damages.
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