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08-04-2019, 04:12 AM
#8191
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
I've said it before, but complaining about the guys that do RSA/VDA and trying to make the argument that RSA/VDA causes low staffing/high bid divisors/red grids is a fools errand. The guys doing most of the RSA/VDA do NOT WANT staffing fixed. Period.
As long as it's not a labor dispute, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. The "oldest profession" right?
As long as it's not a labor dispute, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. The "oldest profession" right?
08-04-2019, 05:02 AM
#8192
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 478
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I've said it before, but complaining about the guys that do RSA/VDA and trying to make the argument that RSA/VDA causes low staffing/high bid divisors/red grids is a fools errand. The guys doing most of the RSA/VDA do NOT WANT staffing fixed. Period.
As long as it's not a labor dispute, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. The "oldest profession" right?
As long as it's not a labor dispute, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. The "oldest profession" right?
08-04-2019, 09:40 AM
#8193
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by 360KIAS
VDAs don't cause low staffing. Low staffing (due to a lack of grasping which is cheaper) drives VDAs. And either way, it's not within the pilot group's ability to prevent VDAs, only pick them up or ignore them.
08-04-2019, 03:46 PM
#8195
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by 360KIAS
VDAs don't cause low staffing. Low staffing (due to a lack of grasping which is cheaper) drives VDAs. And either way, it's not within the pilot group's ability to prevent VDAs, only pick them up or ignore them.
Look I don’t care what people do. What I do know is if they are addicted to this way of pay when we hit a labor dispute again( we will) it’s going to be hard for them to stop. That to me would be the problem.
08-04-2019, 04:52 PM
#8198
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 522
Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
VDA today is filling in the blanks of the company’s TRO during tomorrow’s “labor dispute”.
08-04-2019, 06:45 PM
#8199
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 591
Originally Posted by likeitis
True. I couldn’t care less if people are picking up flying when not in negotiations but it should be known that their historical habits are collected by the company which could be a threat to the success of the next NC. I’ve seen the extent of the data NWA collected in the 90’s so I can’t even imagine the level of data they have now with leaps in technology.
The more we pick up the brighter the line becomes when we stop or slow down.
Personally. I view a TRO as an investment in our future and would be more than happy to read the cease and desist letter from ALPA written by a federal judge.
08-04-2019, 07:17 PM
#8200
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 478
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
It’s cheaper till nobody does it and the schedule falls apart.
Look I don’t care what people do. What I do know is if they are addicted to this way of pay when we hit a labor dispute again( we will) it’s going to be hard for them to stop. That to me would be the problem.
Look I don’t care what people do. What I do know is if they are addicted to this way of pay when we hit a labor dispute again( we will) it’s going to be hard for them to stop. That to me would be the problem.
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