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Old 07-03-2019, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner View Post
That's possible, but there will still be the "holy crap, we need a pilot NOW" calls. They just might be more rare.
Iíve mentioned this before, but itís going to depend on which base/plane youíre on. Just did a VDA this week to a delay-prone airport (ORD) that was getting hammered with thunderstorms all day. Plenty of reserves that day, but they needed a new crew immediately. Premium open-time pot ainít gonna be the answer for those situations, itís just not.
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Old 07-03-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork View Post
Correct.

Missed that.

It will take time to see how this all shakes out. The current VDA with paper DH was the first domino after RSA because it was based upon system-wide seniority.

This I would imagine will be the last domino before the flight CNXs after POTFCFS, RSA, VDA, GOT rostering, then ...
Yeah there will be a "new normal" once the CBA is fully implemented, with lots of things interacting in ways that no one thought about. Fun times.
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Old 07-03-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
I think they are counting on global open time killing most VDAs.


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Oh I get that. Trust me. Gonna take a big hit once it's implemented. My only question was the September start date and where that came from.
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Old 07-03-2019, 06:19 PM
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Time or money.

You can only make More of One.
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Old 08-02-2019, 04:55 PM
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I'm so happy that about 30-40% of the pilot group is making their Profit Sharing back this summer. . . warms my heart <sarcasm>
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:04 AM
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I'm so happy that about 30-40% of the pilot group is making their Profit Sharing back this summer. . . warms my heart <sarcasm>
It's funny how many of you are communists when it comes to work. You see to want everyone to work the same amount, and make the same income. Very strange.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerner View Post
It's funny how many of you are communists when it comes to work. You see to want everyone to work the same amount, and make the same income. Very strange.
Only airline Iíve worked at where itís almost frowned upon to make extra money. Even post CBA signing.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
Only airline Iíve worked at where itís almost frowned upon to make extra money. Even post CBA signing.
It's only frowned upon by the APC NN/DD club. While I haven't had a VDA in quite some time, I see MANY CAs doing it every week. Those guys are KILLIN' it!
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
It's only frowned upon by the APC NN/DD club. While I haven't had a VDA in quite some time, I see MANY CAs doing it every week. Those guys are KILLIN' it!
The ones complaining are almost always commuters as well. They donít have the opportunity to RSA or VDA like local guys have. And as you said itís really a minority of guys on message boards complaining about it. Itís certainly not the opinion of most line pilots.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:17 AM
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The ones complaining are almost always commuters as well. They donít have the opportunity to RSA or VDA like local guys have. And as you said itís really a minority of guys on message boards complaining about it. Itís certainly not the opinion of most line pilots.
I agree. It should be a personal choice thing. As long as you're working within the confines of the CBA, all is good. The guys who want to fly a lot make life better for the ones who don't. I do wish our drop policies were a bit more liberal. But JetBlue operates on the cheap. They will never upgrade enough captains to be "fat" unless it is accidental. So, I say take advantage of that fact. No matter how we behave, they will run things lean.
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