Outrageous. Crew detained in DR
05-07-2022, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Which we haven't used in over 75 years and wouldn't here and they know it. Not saying that the US couldn't retaliate with more might (even with nukes off the table) than Canada but not sure the US response would be much different than Canada right now. And I think other countries know this.
05-07-2022, 08:45 AM
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As a passenger I'd prefer you didn't go. I can always catch another flight. My family can catch another flight.
Anyone who thinks going is the best option is acting extremely selfishly and stupidly. You don't know who's in on it. It could be other crew. It could be local government. You don't know what the plan is in case of discovery, and you might be the fall guy. Corporate security probably isn't in on it so send them an email/text to go on record before you do anything. Cc someone you actually trust too. You don't need elaboration, just timestamps. Then immediately gather as many people as possible (excluding passengers) and explain what you found. Bring everyone you possibly can into the know as early as possible. The more the better because everyone is implicated including you. The sooner the better too because you can't afford letting someone get inadvertently tipped off by corporate security. You might say "F-that I'm not going down for this", but you might go down no matter what, including if you do nothing. Do you really trust your captain/fo enough to let it be "our little secret"? What's he going to do enroute when you tell him you want to be met on landing? You're not inside his head. You don't know his secret deals, contingencies, and consequences. You don't know who else knows or what's on their agenda. I've laid down not only the smartest plan to protect yourself but also one that honors our duty to the folks. Really this duty comes first but as a selfish SOB I'd want to be smart about it too.
This crew did the right thing. They stood up for the safety of their passengers and took a great personal risk in doing so. Now who will stand up for them?
Anyone who thinks going is the best option is acting extremely selfishly and stupidly. You don't know who's in on it. It could be other crew. It could be local government. You don't know what the plan is in case of discovery, and you might be the fall guy. Corporate security probably isn't in on it so send them an email/text to go on record before you do anything. Cc someone you actually trust too. You don't need elaboration, just timestamps. Then immediately gather as many people as possible (excluding passengers) and explain what you found. Bring everyone you possibly can into the know as early as possible. The more the better because everyone is implicated including you. The sooner the better too because you can't afford letting someone get inadvertently tipped off by corporate security. You might say "F-that I'm not going down for this", but you might go down no matter what, including if you do nothing. Do you really trust your captain/fo enough to let it be "our little secret"? What's he going to do enroute when you tell him you want to be met on landing? You're not inside his head. You don't know his secret deals, contingencies, and consequences. You don't know who else knows or what's on their agenda. I've laid down not only the smartest plan to protect yourself but also one that honors our duty to the folks. Really this duty comes first but as a selfish SOB I'd want to be smart about it too.
This crew did the right thing. They stood up for the safety of their passengers and took a great personal risk in doing so. Now who will stand up for them?
05-07-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired
Have you ever heard of tactical nukes? They definitely could be at play in a scenario like this.
But depending on the administration, we could do a regime change faster than you can say "Grenada".
05-07-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired
Have you ever heard of tactical nukes? They definitely could be at play in a scenario like this.
05-07-2022, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
As a passenger I'd prefer you didn't go. I can always catch another flight. My family can catch another flight.
Anyone who thinks going is the best option is acting extremely selfishly and stupidly. You don't know who's in on it. It could be other crew. It could be local government. You don't know what the plan is in case of discovery, and you might be the fall guy. Corporate security probably isn't in on it so send them an email/text to go on record before you do anything. Cc someone you actually trust too. You don't need elaboration, just timestamps. Then immediately gather as many people as possible (excluding passengers) and explain what you found. Bring everyone you possibly can into the know as early as possible. The more the better because everyone is implicated including you. The sooner the better too because you can't afford letting someone get inadvertently tipped off by corporate security. You might say "F-that I'm not going down for this", but you might go down no matter what, including if you do nothing. Do you really trust your captain/fo enough to let it be "our little secret"? What's he going to do enroute when you tell him you want to be met on landing? You're not inside his head. You don't know his secret deals, contingencies, and consequences. You don't know who else knows or what's on their agenda. I've laid down not only the smartest plan to protect yourself but also one that honors our duty to the folks. Really this duty comes first but as a selfish SOB I'd want to be smart about it too.
This crew did the right thing. They stood up for the safety of their passengers and took a great personal risk in doing so. Now who will stand up for them?
Anyone who thinks going is the best option is acting extremely selfishly and stupidly. You don't know who's in on it. It could be other crew. It could be local government. You don't know what the plan is in case of discovery, and you might be the fall guy. Corporate security probably isn't in on it so send them an email/text to go on record before you do anything. Cc someone you actually trust too. You don't need elaboration, just timestamps. Then immediately gather as many people as possible (excluding passengers) and explain what you found. Bring everyone you possibly can into the know as early as possible. The more the better because everyone is implicated including you. The sooner the better too because you can't afford letting someone get inadvertently tipped off by corporate security. You might say "F-that I'm not going down for this", but you might go down no matter what, including if you do nothing. Do you really trust your captain/fo enough to let it be "our little secret"? What's he going to do enroute when you tell him you want to be met on landing? You're not inside his head. You don't know his secret deals, contingencies, and consequences. You don't know who else knows or what's on their agenda. I've laid down not only the smartest plan to protect yourself but also one that honors our duty to the folks. Really this duty comes first but as a selfish SOB I'd want to be smart about it too.
This crew did the right thing. They stood up for the safety of their passengers and took a great personal risk in doing so. Now who will stand up for them?
How was a couple bags of drugs gonna affect the safety of the flight and the passengers.
those crewmembers are fighting a very long drawn out battle because of what happened. I would’ve definitely waited till I got back to the US or Canada where are you to have a more fair legal system
05-08-2022, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired
Have you ever heard of tactical nukes? They definitely could be at play in a scenario like this.
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