Economic Impacts of Iran War
05-13-2026 | 09:47 AM
#1911
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,494
Likes: 503
Wow... it is fascinating to watch how quickly you shift the goalposts and rely on historical revisionism the moment cold, hard data exposes your bias.
Let's address your attempt to rationalize the murder of American troops in Iraq. Claiming the Quds Force's role was 'small' and that it doesn't matter because the war was 'stupid' is a sickening defense. The origin of the war does not magically excuse Iran smuggling specialized, armor-melting weapons to kill 603 American service members. To you, those 603 flag-draped coffins are just a 'small portion' to be swept under the rug because it conflicts with your worldview. Seriously?!!
Your geographical ignorance is even worse. You claim U.S. troops were 'in their part of the world.' Dude... Lebanon and Saudi Arabia aren't Iranian provinces. By defending the Marine Barracks and Khobar Towers bombings under the guise of 'entering their world,' you are literally arguing that Iran has a regional right to launch mass-casualty terror attacks inside neighboring sovereign countries. Again.... seriously??!
And nice try trying to hide behind the massive, multi-billion dollar oil futures grift to salvage your 'follow the money' cliché. Yes, the CFTC and DOJ are actively investigating the $7 billion in suspicious crude shorts placed right before Trump's announcements. These people are nothing but profiteers, and yet it STILL doesn't erase almost 5 decades of Iranian terrorism. You are using a localized 2026 insider trading probe to minimize decades of IRGC-funded bombings, hijackings, and proxy slaughters. Just...... wow.... weak!
Finally, don't lecture me on American freedoms. Moving here as a kid gave you an opportunity to achieve what many kids around the world can only dream of, but it clearly didn't scrub the deep-rooted anti-Western tropes out of your belief system. The ultimate irony remains: you hide behind the First Amendment to minimize American military deaths and carry water for the IRGC, fully knowing that if you tried to pull this kind of selective dissent or carried water for an adversary back in Pakistan, you'd be locked away or disappeared. It is incredibly dark that you reap the immense economic privileges of being an airline pilot in this country while casually dismissing the targeted slaughter of our troops. Pure ignorance....
Let's address your attempt to rationalize the murder of American troops in Iraq. Claiming the Quds Force's role was 'small' and that it doesn't matter because the war was 'stupid' is a sickening defense. The origin of the war does not magically excuse Iran smuggling specialized, armor-melting weapons to kill 603 American service members. To you, those 603 flag-draped coffins are just a 'small portion' to be swept under the rug because it conflicts with your worldview. Seriously?!!
Your geographical ignorance is even worse. You claim U.S. troops were 'in their part of the world.' Dude... Lebanon and Saudi Arabia aren't Iranian provinces. By defending the Marine Barracks and Khobar Towers bombings under the guise of 'entering their world,' you are literally arguing that Iran has a regional right to launch mass-casualty terror attacks inside neighboring sovereign countries. Again.... seriously??!
And nice try trying to hide behind the massive, multi-billion dollar oil futures grift to salvage your 'follow the money' cliché. Yes, the CFTC and DOJ are actively investigating the $7 billion in suspicious crude shorts placed right before Trump's announcements. These people are nothing but profiteers, and yet it STILL doesn't erase almost 5 decades of Iranian terrorism. You are using a localized 2026 insider trading probe to minimize decades of IRGC-funded bombings, hijackings, and proxy slaughters. Just...... wow.... weak!
Finally, don't lecture me on American freedoms. Moving here as a kid gave you an opportunity to achieve what many kids around the world can only dream of, but it clearly didn't scrub the deep-rooted anti-Western tropes out of your belief system. The ultimate irony remains: you hide behind the First Amendment to minimize American military deaths and carry water for the IRGC, fully knowing that if you tried to pull this kind of selective dissent or carried water for an adversary back in Pakistan, you'd be locked away or disappeared. It is incredibly dark that you reap the immense economic privileges of being an airline pilot in this country while casually dismissing the targeted slaughter of our troops. Pure ignorance....
Oh yes, I’m sure the DOJ will get right on it.
Most of what you wrote is FAing in the world. I don’t mean to sound partisan, just facts: since 1990, R Presidents have started ME wars, Gulf War started under Bush Sr, Iraq and Afghan started under Bush Jr, and Iran war under Trump. All 3 Rs, and just the facts.
Your commentary in Iraq troops, that should have been addressed back when it was happening. And who put them in harms way to begin with? A Repub President. If you go to a foreign country and enact war, they are going to fight back and people will die. That’s just war. Dont like wars? Don’t start unnecessary ones.
And you don’t need to lecture me on freedoms either. Unlike you and most of the R voting base, I don’t take this for granted. The proudest day of my life (after my kids being born), was what your crowd takes for granted: becoming a citizen (naturalized in my case). It actually means a lot to me. And the rights that come with it. One thing I’ve noticed here is most people just take it for granted. So when it comes under attack, they sometimes ignore it or dismiss it. Not me. And we have never had as many attacks on the first amendment as we do now.
05-13-2026 | 10:28 AM
#1912
Moderator
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,336
Likes: 1,343
Well, we assassinated the ayatollah and killed scores more in their govt. And unlike what you thought, the people of Iran don’t line up for a regime change. Turns out, they actually would rather have their ayatollah and IRGC over being bombed by the U.S. and Israel. Shocked, who knew? (Answer: Everyone outside of the U.S. and Israel)
Whats a terrorist simp? Is that what you call anyone who calls out this BS war?
By that definition, United States is in the top 3. Israel has also funded Hamas in the past. Hell most of the equipment of Taliban today in Afghanistan is US made and left behind. And we are funding the Taliban govt in Afghanistan.
Whats a terrorist simp? Is that what you call anyone who calls out this BS war?
By that definition, United States is in the top 3. Israel has also funded Hamas in the past. Hell most of the equipment of Taliban today in Afghanistan is US made and left behind. And we are funding the Taliban govt in Afghanistan.
The fact you insinuate your own adopted country is a top 3 terrorist country is beyond words.
05-13-2026 | 10:30 AM
#1913
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,494
Likes: 503
My perspectives on geopolitics are actually pretty nuanced.
Just in this particular case the facts are black and white.
1) Don't operate airliners into a hot conflict, especially ...
1) A conflict YOU started.
2) The airlines are launching out of YOUR primary military base that YOU are using to support YOUR attacks. What could possibly go wrong
The spin doctors then latch onto some USN lessons learned to try to flip the script and make the good guys the bad guys. Regime didn't give a rats arse about those people, and were probably hoping something like this would happen.
No Sympathy.
Worth noting that you can contrast Vincennes with the Cole. I'd say the Vincennes CO navigated the grey area better than the Cole CO. One came home with all his people.
Just in this particular case the facts are black and white.
1) Don't operate airliners into a hot conflict, especially ...
1) A conflict YOU started.
2) The airlines are launching out of YOUR primary military base that YOU are using to support YOUR attacks. What could possibly go wrong
The spin doctors then latch onto some USN lessons learned to try to flip the script and make the good guys the bad guys. Regime didn't give a rats arse about those people, and were probably hoping something like this would happen.
No Sympathy.
Worth noting that you can contrast Vincennes with the Cole. I'd say the Vincennes CO navigated the grey area better than the Cole CO. One came home with all his people.
The facts are black and white, while you excused the Vincennes as “fog of war.” It’s black and white when you want to make it black or white. The Iran Iraq war had been going on 8 yrs. You can’t just shut air travel down for 8 yrs.
The latest technological advancements inside the Vincennes with its AEGIS system was the best for the late 80s. They effed up. They identified a climbing airliner at 250 knots, as a diving F14 with “increasing” airspeed. With what ordinance was a single F14 diving towards the Vincennes, no one knows. Certainly not an Exocet missile.
Cole was refueling at port when it was hit. Vincennes had one helicopter take fire, that heli made it back, all US lives were safe at that moment, when the commander decided to engage those boats and moved his ship further into harms way. Only one was actively trying to FAFO at the moment of attack.
05-13-2026 | 10:34 AM
#1915
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2026
Posts: 241
Likes: 256
Ironic. The Iranians were bombed on their homeland. We just got fat and dumb in that meantime. Who do you think has the stronger will? Iranians will last longer than the average public John Doe. We are just about to enter the FO stage of FAing. You as a major airline Capt are insulated to pricing of goods and services. But the average American family that can’t even cover a $500 emergency, they are in trouble. I hope you (and they) have exactly the day they voted for.
And please don't confuse the Iranian people with their government. They are not getting bombed, government resources were. You'll bring up the school children but if that is true it was through the fog of war.
I find it very interesting that you and your kind did not give two craps when 30,000 protesting citizens of Iran were gunned down by the regime just a few months ago. Were you outraged when they just hung their own star athlete?
Last edited by FangsF15; 05-13-2026 at 11:53 AM. Reason: remove partisan slight
05-13-2026 | 10:38 AM
#1916
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2026
Posts: 241
Likes: 256
Oh yes, I’m sure the DOJ will get right on it.
Most of what you wrote is FAing in the world. I don’t mean to sound partisan, just facts: since 1990, R Presidents have started ME wars, Gulf War started under Bush Sr, Iraq and Afghan started under Bush Jr, and Iran war under Trump. All 3 Rs, and just the facts.
Your commentary in Iraq troops, that should have been addressed back when it was happening. And who put them in harms way to begin with? A Repub President. If you go to a foreign country and enact war, they are going to fight back and people will die. That’s just war. Dont like wars? Don’t start unnecessary ones.
And you don’t need to lecture me on freedoms either. Unlike you and most of the R voting base, I don’t take this for granted. The proudest day of my life (after my kids being born), was what your crowd takes for granted: becoming a citizen (naturalized in my case). It actually means a lot to me. And the rights that come with it. One thing I’ve noticed here is most people just take it for granted. So when it comes under attack, they sometimes ignore it or dismiss it. Not me. And we have never had as many attacks on the first amendment as we do now.
Most of what you wrote is FAing in the world. I don’t mean to sound partisan, just facts: since 1990, R Presidents have started ME wars, Gulf War started under Bush Sr, Iraq and Afghan started under Bush Jr, and Iran war under Trump. All 3 Rs, and just the facts.
Your commentary in Iraq troops, that should have been addressed back when it was happening. And who put them in harms way to begin with? A Repub President. If you go to a foreign country and enact war, they are going to fight back and people will die. That’s just war. Dont like wars? Don’t start unnecessary ones.
And you don’t need to lecture me on freedoms either. Unlike you and most of the R voting base, I don’t take this for granted. The proudest day of my life (after my kids being born), was what your crowd takes for granted: becoming a citizen (naturalized in my case). It actually means a lot to me. And the rights that come with it. One thing I’ve noticed here is most people just take it for granted. So when it comes under attack, they sometimes ignore it or dismiss it. Not me. And we have never had as many attacks on the first amendment as we do now.
05-13-2026 | 10:38 AM
#1917
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,494
Likes: 503
Convenient of you to ignore the fact Iran has literally shot 40-50,000 people in the street, for trying to protest for change. The average Iranian citizen is terrified of getting shot, and is waiting for the right moment. One which may or may not come. Literally dozens of videos have made it out of Iran with the citizens cheering the bombing. And the expats are 100% in favor of it.
But I’ll entertain it. 40-50000 now? It was 30k before. Who keeps increasing it? And since when did the right wing in flyover states ever care about the civilians inside of Iran? Can we have an honest conversation?
No one cheers their own country getting bombed. While some may be happy the ayatollah is dead, their hatred of his regime is less than their hatred of getting bombed by the U.S. and Israel. They are still Iranians, first.
The fact you insinuate your own adopted country is a top 3 terrorist country is beyond words.
with weapons to take out Russian helicopters in the 80s. They were useful terrorists then.
05-13-2026 | 10:43 AM
#1918
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,494
Likes: 503
But if you want to have an honest conversation about Pakistan v India, sure. My parents went through 2 wars. We left in ‘92. After the last war in 98 both countries announced nuke weapons. Now amazingly, no more wars. Sure, there’s been skirmishes. But what my parents had to go though, future generations have not. The nuclear arms gives them a long term stalemate. Probably the best outcome for the Indian Subcon. 3 wars from 1947-1998. Since going nuclear, no major wars. Skirmishes, sure. But not like before.
Nothing like peace, though stalemate of equal firepower. I’m sure Ukraine has many regrets! And a lesson for anyone watching in the world, what happens with Russia v Ukraine, and Pakistan v India.
Long term peace in the ME is going to involve 2 countries being nuclear armed, with Israel already being one.
05-13-2026 | 10:46 AM
#1919
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2026
Posts: 241
Likes: 256
And you say that makes it a wash compared to a Government who killed 30,000 (or 50,000 because for some reason that difference makes a big difference with you) of their own citizens over the period of a couple days? I wonder how much influence of Pakistan's ISI is having on this conflict. How many more civilians from India are you going to slaughter? Why did you protect Bin Landen?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
