How much should a pilot be paid? Pt. II
01-09-2006, 09:21 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I know guys who install flooring who earn as much as an Alaska Airlines captain. Even apprentice plumbers and electricians earn more than most regional airline captains.
01-09-2006, 11:31 AM
#112
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Pilot Shortage
Originally Posted by mike734
Therein lies our salvation. When many other jobs/careers pay as much or better, people will naturally migrate there. Barriers to entry are still high enough to limit supply. There is a great deal of talk now about the coming shortage of labor in our country. The boomers are retiring etc... We may find very soon that there will be a severe pilot shortage that will naturally raise the pay just to attract quality people. Remember, you still have to have to keep your nose clean to get and keep a airline job. Idiots tend to make career ending mistakes fairly early in their lives.
I am not so sure we will have a pilot shortage. Horizon Air will tell you that it is much more difficult to find a ramper that will consistently show up and actually work than it is to fill a new hire pilot class. The shortage is in semi-skilled workers like plumbers, electricians, truck drivers, HVAC techs ect... No one wants to work anymore. (They all have recently gotten new pilots licenses.) As we all know there are enough laid off and washed up pilot types out there like myself to supply the airlines for decades to come. The evidence lies in the fact that the Majors have to keep raising the minimums in order to fight off all the applicants. Someone wrote recently that SWA was raising its minimums to 2000 hours of 121 PIC. Does anyone know if that is that true?
SkyHigh
Last edited by SkyHigh; 01-09-2006 at 11:34 AM.
01-09-2006, 11:43 AM
#113
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sky high,
How do I put this nicely, I have learned two things in my life. One, how to budget your lifestlye with the money you have not the money you want to have. Two not to listen to someone else who has no bearing on what my choices and experiences are, or better said take what someone else says for a grain of salt.
just my two cents
How do I put this nicely, I have learned two things in my life. One, how to budget your lifestlye with the money you have not the money you want to have. Two not to listen to someone else who has no bearing on what my choices and experiences are, or better said take what someone else says for a grain of salt.
just my two cents
01-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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there is no pilot shortage looming, there never has been. there have been times when airlines lowered their standards for a period of time but those times never lasted and i don't think we'll see any repeats of UA hiring 200 hour guys and training them from the ground up, as it were.
01-09-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Therein lies our salvation. When many other jobs/careers pay as much or better, people will naturally migrate there. Barriers to entry are still high enough to limit supply. There is a great deal of talk now about the coming shortage of labor in our country. The boomers are retiring etc... We may find very soon that there will be a severe pilot shortage that will naturally raise the pay just to attract quality people.........
01-09-2006, 04:03 PM
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Mr. Speaker !
Originally Posted by dckozak
I think if (we) could just hire SkyHigh to talk to every high school senior about aviation as a career we could solve the over supply problem in short order!!
Man, You got that right !!! I would scare them so bad they wouldn't even take a ride in an airplane for at least a year.
SkyHigh
01-09-2006, 04:15 PM
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Speeder
Originally Posted by preludespeeder
sky high,
How do I put this nicely, I have learned two things in my life. One, how to budget your lifestlye with the money you have not the money you want to have. Two not to listen to someone else who has no bearing on what my choices and experiences are, or better said take what someone else says for a grain of salt.
just my two cents
How do I put this nicely, I have learned two things in my life. One, how to budget your lifestlye with the money you have not the money you want to have. Two not to listen to someone else who has no bearing on what my choices and experiences are, or better said take what someone else says for a grain of salt.
just my two cents
Those are two very good virtues. They will serve you well. You shouldn't get all worked up over what a computer dude tells you. My only hopes are that it might make you think about things that you haven't before.
SkyHigh
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