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Old 05-29-2009, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver View Post
Didn't see anything specifically prohibiting it but take a look for yourself.

Uniform Standards
• The shirt must be buttoned, with tie in place at all times when in public
view.
• Uniform coat should be appropriately buttoned when in public view.
• Only authorized tie tack / pins may be worn.
• The female uniform shirt / tie combinations will be the white ascot blouse
or the white female blouse with black floppy bow tie.
• Long sleeve shirts may only be worn with the uniform coat.
• Sweaters are optional and may only be worn under the uniform coat
when in view of the public. Sweaters must be plain black and be either a
long sleeve V-neck pullover or V-neck vest style. Sweaters embroidered
with the approved Continental logo are approved.
• Black leather business dress shoes for males are defined as cap toe, low
quarter tie, or slip-on shoes, no tassels, and Wellington style boots. All
shoes must have a non-skid sole.
• Approved all weather coats / overcoats may only be worn over the
uniform suit coat. Coat should be buttoned when in public view.

• Approved Continental wings appropriate to your crew status will be worn
on the uniform suit coat over the left breast.
• Approved Continental wings appropriate to your crew status will be worn
centered ½ inch above the left shirt pocket.
• Trouser / pant / skirt material must be the same as the uniform coat when
worn in combination.
• Baseball caps, sun visors, etc. may be worn in the flight deck only.
• Flight crewmembers must have the approval of their Chief Pilot to
operate an aircraft in any attire other than the approved pilot uniform.
• Pilots qualified as captain, but currently flying in another status may wear
captain epaulets, captain shirt and jacket wings, and captain jacket
stripes. The pilot may not wear the captain hat. A Check Airman
performing Check Airman duties in the right seat may continue to wear
the captain’s hat.
• The standard crew luggage is a 20 to 24 inch black suitcase. A small
black tote and / or a plain black hanging garment bag (no shoulder strap)
can also be carried. Crew luggage shall be free of stickers. The wearing
of back packs is prohibited.
• The uniform hat shall be worn whenever the uniform coat is worn.
The following items are Not Approved:
• Worn, stained, or dirty uniform pieces.
• Trousers / pants with cuffs.
• Black casual shoes, tennis shoes, or cowboy boots.
• Garment bags with shoulder straps.
Seasonal and geographical requirements:
• The uniform coat and hat are required to be worn between October 15
and April 15 by pilots conducting the following operations:
− Domestic flights (including HNL)
− European (including TLV)
− South and Central America
− Caribbean
− Canada
− U.S. to/from Asia/Japan
During this period the uniform coat and hat is not required to be worn by
pilots conducting operations between HNL and GUM.
Male Grooming Standards
• Hair must present a clean, neat and businesslike appearance. Hair will be
trimmed so as not to extend below the top of the shirt collar or below the
middle of the ear. Extreme styles and colors are not acceptable.
• Sideburns will not extend below the middle of the ear and will be of an
even width. Sideburns will end with a clean shaven line.
• Mustaches will be trimmed to reveal the entire upper lip line. They may
not extend more than a Ό inch beyond the corner of the mouth.
• Beards and goatees are not allowed.
• Earrings, facial and tongue studs are not allowed
Female Grooming Standards
• Hair will be worn in a business-like and fashionable manner. Hair will
be styled or secured so as not to interfere with pilot duties in and around
the aircraft, and so the hat may be worn squarely upon the head. Extreme
styles and colors are not acceptable.
• If makeup is worn, it must be worn to create a business-like appearance.
Lipstick and cosmetics with grease must not be worn due to the fact that
pure oxygen and grease-based cosmetics can cause combustion.

No goatees? That's nonsense! As long as kept trim, they look very professional! What about all of the CEO's that have them? This needs to be updated with the times (since pay doesn't seem to keep up).
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:37 PM
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No goatees? That's nonsense! As long as kept trim, they look very professional! What about all of the CEO's that have them? This needs to be updated with the times (since pay doesn't seem to keep up).
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.
Ahhh! Interesting! =) I don't get much above 5,500 yet... So cut me some slack! lol
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:38 AM
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Ahhh! Interesting! =) I don't get much above 5,500 yet... So cut me some slack! lol
Well here's something to look forward to... 100% O2 is better than coffee ahhh.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.

They might need the O2 when they bail with their golden parachutes....
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.


Negative… that’s simulator pilot thinking. It’s because of the puritanical idiots who are in charge of personal grooming and fashion. Outside the US many crewmembers have full beards, and goatees. A Scott mask is a Scott mask… does not make a hill of beans what country or airline it’s located.
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.
Almost all current masks are certified to work with facial hair. All the new full face masks will work with beards. Most major airlines have upgraded all their aircraft to the newer masks so this is not a valid reason.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
The reason is because of the 02 mask my friend. No goatees or beards are allowed due to the fact that the O2 mask needs to make a positive seal and that can't happen with beards & such. Ceo's aren't gonna be putting on the O2 mask, Think about it.
Yeah, well by that logic half our captain ranks would lose consciousness because of the stereotypical pilot stache. I swear walking through the terminal is like evaluating the future candidates for ALPA National office.
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There used to be an advisory circular that gave numbers of oxygen/pressure loss with the use of masks and beards. It's probably waaaay outdated, but survives to haunt geeks like me that research such things.
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Virgin America and Jetblue allow goatees.
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