LuvJockey

I am guessing that it'll be more like the Morris deal with all pilots being offered employment at SWA, no interviews. That could go horribly wrong however, if no agreement could be reached (as happened with Muse Air). When I say horribly wrong, I mean that SWA will either withdraw their bid or not offer guaranteed employment. I would also guess that a potential agreement for pay rates and seniority are being discussed right now by FAPA and SWAPA.

flyguy23

If it turns out they are offered guaranteed employment, then its a big win for the Frontier guys. I wish them all the best either way. I really hope thats the case. If Southwest wins the bid and doesn't offer guaranteed employment, this will be extremely ugly for the Frontier people. Hopefully it works out for the best.

SWApilotwife

I understand your frustration and sadness of losing Frontier- I am sure your husband has enjoyed 11 years at an airline that has consistently provided an excellent product and service. I do think, however, that you have to remember nothing is set in stone yet... Unfortunately, the days of Frontier as we know them are never going to be the same. In one way or another, Frontier will be a different airline over the next few years.
I am from Evergreen, and even I do not put much stock into what Mike Boyd has to say... So, I wouldn't worry about that too much either. There are many speculations and opinions floating around right now- I am just going to wait until we see a final bid, a final award, etc.
That said, you seem to have a very negative view of SWA. I hope if your husband gets integrated into the SWA senority, gets 11 year FO or even CA pay, bumps my 5 year FO husband back, gets kick-ass insurance and benefits, and realizes how amazing it is to work at Southwest, all of those people you know that are going to fly on United because they "hate and refuse to fly Southwest" will change their mind.
I'm just sayin...

B757200ER

SWA is really ruthless when it comes to buying other companies and integrating employees. Make no mistake, if SWA buys F9, it will be 100% business and no favors or niceties will be offered. SWA is strategically moving into DEN and wants 1/3rd of the market with F9's market share; it is a very good move by SWA to challenge UAL and looks like it is more to keep RC from acquiring F9.

They simply get rid of all F9's Airbuses, either integrate some or none of the employees, or some re-hire scheme, then grow the DEN market share.

Now, if only their under-valued stock would go up!

Lifer

And that Union will Do Nothing to keep F9 People in their jobs!

SWA only has their best interests in mind--and there is no way in hell that SWA F/O's are going to allow any F9 er's on the List in Front of Them.

So much for " Fair and Equitable "

Maybe I'm wrong---Maybe the SWAPA will step up and allow " Fair and Equitable" Integration of the F9 er's into their Senority List.

Oh, That's Right, I forgot---SWA and their SWAPA Have Never Let, or Integrated, Anyone onto their List.

Well here is your chance--if SWA bid is successful, let's see if SWAPA will allow the F9 er's into the SWA club.

I hope so for F9'S Sake.

BTW:

" In your hurry to slap me down with the above example of your intellect "

I wasn't making an effort to slap you down--and what I wrote wasn't even a half hearted attempt at the demonstration of Superior Intellect--it was a full dose of Sarcasm .


But you were so busy being offended, that any point would have flown directly over your head anyway .

thepilotswife

I'll admit, I have no idea who Mike Boyd is so I won't quote him anymore! A lot of "those" people I talke to are family and friends. I'll also admit that I've only ever heard good things from SWA employees about how they love working for their company and I totally get that and I think it is awesome to love the company you work for...we sure did!!

I just have a hard time believing SWA really cares about F9 employees. They came to Denver in 2006 and I strongly believe it was to put Frontier out of business. I know it isn't SWA fault they are in bankruptcy (I blame the CC company and the high gas prices) but I think they would do what they could to get Frontier's gates. I've been all sorts of "rumors" since they came to town.

Obviously, if by some miracle, my husband retains his senority and has a great career with SWA I will be very greatful and appreciative...but that is a BIG if...until then all we can do is wait.

I wish you and your family a long and happy career in this "turbulent" industry!!

Lifer

A CRJ F/O with an Avatar of a Frontier Airlines Tail????

The dream was always running ahead of me. To catch up, to live for a moment in unison with it, that was the miracle.

Sniper

It's a 757 tail.

See the plane here

Iron Maiden's lead singer, Bruce Dickinson, is also a 757 Captain.

Oh, and another FYI, your quote ("The dream was always running ahead of me. To catch up, to live for a moment in unison with it, that was the miracle") is by Anais Nin, best known to many for her female erotica writings and journals. I had to google it, since you didn't attribute it to anyone.

Lifer

Sniper,

I saw the picture.
I have to say I liked it ( and downloaded it . )

Thanks.

Hal9000

"There are roughly 2,500 back office people at Frontier in Denver that are what they call synergistic cost centers. These aren't the people whom I represent, but they are my friends. The Southwest deal would probably eliminate more of these jobs than a Republic deal because Republic doesn't have the ticketing and back office operations that Frontier provides."
-- John Stemmler, president of the Frontier Airline Pilots Association president, as quoted by the Wall Street Journal.