Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major
Delta New Hires/Class Dates/Cleared to Train >

Delta New Hires/Class Dates/Cleared to Train

Search

Notices
Major Legacy, National, and LCC

Delta New Hires/Class Dates/Cleared to Train

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:10 AM
  #311  
acl65pilot's Avatar
Happy to be here
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 18,563
Likes: 0
From: A-320A
Default

With a pilot group this big, I always have a current MD (Mandatory Displacement) Bid in. We are moving stuff around, converting domestic 767 seats to ER, so there are always displacements going on. There is no way to sharp shoot what other will bid. Be prepared and have a MD in so that if displaced you go to a jet of your desire not one that is arbitrary assigned.

Also if MDed you do not have a seat lock and keep your awarded vacation. This is not true on a AE or VD.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:18 AM
  #312  
Too Tall's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Mad Doggy
Default

Thanks for all the info guys. Is it true that as a new hire you are not seat locked in your first aircraft? Also how long are seat locks at Delta?
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:20 AM
  #313  
acl65pilot's Avatar
Happy to be here
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 18,563
Likes: 0
From: A-320A
Default

No seat lock for your initial assignment in new hire class. After that Every AE or VD will incur a 24 month seat lock. The only exception is your first A seat. They will allow you to break a lock for that.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:24 AM
  #314  
Check Essential's Avatar
Works Every Weekend
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,506
Likes: 0
From: 737 ATL
Default

Originally Posted by Too Tall
Thanks for all the info guys. Is it true that as a new hire you are not seat locked in your first aircraft? Also how long are seat locks at Delta?
New hires have no seat lock. Delta calls it a "freeze".

When you do move, the freeze for a new jet is 2 years.
No freeze if you just change bases but not airplanes. ie = no training required.
DTWM88B to MSPM88B = no freeze.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:26 AM
  #315  
Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,088
Likes: 0
From: B757/767
Default

Originally Posted by Too Tall
Thanks for all the info guys. Is it true that as a new hire you are not seat locked in your first aircraft? Also how long are seat locks at Delta?
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
No seat lock for your initial assignment in new hire class. After that Every AE or VD will incur a 24 month seat lock. The only exception is your first A seat. They will allow you to break a lock for that.

Yes, and as ACL mentioned if you are involutarily bumped out of your seat then you will not be locked on whatever aircraft you're bumped to.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:54 AM
  #316  
New Hire
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

I am a compass flow. I was awarded the MSP M88, but am also being held back for 3 months. Lets say I can bid on the next AE and get awarded MSP 320. Would I be seat locked in the 320, if I have not started training in the M88?

Thanks
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 06:58 AM
  #317  
Check Essential's Avatar
Works Every Weekend
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,506
Likes: 0
From: 737 ATL
Default

Originally Posted by RJForever
I am a compass flow. I was awarded the MSP M88, but am also being held back for 3 months. Lets say I can bid on the next AE and get awarded MSP 320. Would I be seat locked in the 320, if I have not started training in the M88?

Thanks
Good question.
You guys are the proverbial guinea pigs on that issue. There's never been flows and hold backs before.
You might have to call Crew Resources for an official ruling. Probably DALPA Contract Admin as well.
First ask if you can even bid, then about the freeze.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 09:03 AM
  #318  
acl65pilot's Avatar
Happy to be here
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 18,563
Likes: 0
From: A-320A
Default

My guess is that since it is not your initial award, yes, you will be seat locked.
Just a guess though.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 09:26 AM
  #319  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,007
Likes: 0
From: Space Shuttle PIC
Default

Originally Posted by RJForever
I am a compass flow. I was awarded the MSP M88, but am also being held back for 3 months. Lets say I can bid on the next AE and get awarded MSP 320. Would I be seat locked in the 320, if I have not started training in the M88?

Thanks


I would think YES.
Reply
Old 08-23-2010 | 09:49 AM
  #320  
New Hire
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks. I thought I would be, just didn't know how it was written in the contract.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22617
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
Babur
Regional
158
09-15-2009 07:14 AM
FL450
Mesa Airlines
554
06-07-2009 10:04 AM
ToiletDuck
Major
6
04-21-2009 06:33 PM
RockBottom
Major
0
03-10-2005 10:55 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices