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06-14-2011 | 04:28 PM

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aa73

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Thanks for all the replies. There is a discussion on our union board on this subject as well... I truly wish you all the best of luck, it is a tough position to be in. We are probably not far behind...

06-14-2011 | 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by atr42flyer

your crazy did you read the SLI? No bump no flush! get your facts straight before you post makes you look even more like an idiot

ATR, can you please calm down for a second and tell how this would pan out (with a straight face):
1. Fence drops in 7 years.
2. Common contract in place.
3. 80 737's replace 80Airbuses.

I'm about the 1000 mark now. What happens to me?

06-14-2011 | 04:30 PM

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Faultpush,

"would have furloughed 1/3" ? Really? I do agree that the timeline was unrealistic though.

Rolf

The plan was to immediately park about 10-20 Airbuses, and you were reportedly fat on pilots at the time.

06-14-2011 | 04:46 PM

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Uh........not quite true. There were a quite a few Midwest pilots flying the line after the buy out took place. BB spent several million for an early termination of the remaining 717s.

Uh.....hence the word scheduled. Bedford did accelerate the termination of the final aircraft, but it is a fact those aircraft were going away before acquisition. Bedford changed the timing, but the final result was the same.

06-14-2011 | 05:58 PM

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Or as much support as you Midwest guys gave to the Skyway pilots? I guess sitting in the ivory tower believing that Uncle Timmy would NEVER do to you what he did to Skyway sure didn't work out so well, huh? Cry me a river, Rat... Better yet, crawl back into the hole you were hiding in, will ya?

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It was at that. Now we are suppose to come on this forum and read thread after thread of back and forth whining. What does the F9 and RAH pilots want from the rest of us? You want us to choose sides? Most of us, especially me, hope you both go down the toilet. I hope BB screws you as bad as he did me. It will be nice to see the pond scum from RAH fly the Airbus before he shuts you down. Be glad you even have a job. You could be like me and have it ripped out from under you by pilot groups who don't give a damn. I'll be sure to give you as much support as you gave me.

06-14-2011 | 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aa73

Sorry guys and gals... I keep reading all these threads about Frontier and Republic without quite grasping what is going on over there and why all the drama. I guess I haven't followed that change in the industry.

Can you guys explain in a nutshell what is going on?

I do know that Republic bought Frontier a couple of years ago. That's it - that's all I know.

What exactly are you guys angry about?

thx,
73

The short answer to your question is that seniority integrations have always been contentious. Throw in the massive reconfiguration of the industry over the last decade, those forces have gotten even worse. It seems now the new norm for seniority brawls to end up in self destructive spirals where pilots would rather lose their jobs or work under sub-sub-sub-sub standard contracts rather than lose one number. There is virtually no perspective here and it's worse at US Air. Accept the list, move forward, get a better contract, that's the only way to go. Instead, the insanity is winning more often than not.

06-14-2011 | 06:56 PM

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Your bus blockhours would very likely have gone up, even if some were parked. This would have resulted in recalls for your guys that were on the street. How's that for speculating about could-have-beens? All the best, especially yx.

Rolf

Hockey players wear numbers, because dental records is not always enough to identify the body.

06-14-2011 | 07:40 PM

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Then they wouldn't have had any problem with guaranteeing jobs and benefits.

06-14-2011 | 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH

Unselfishly? 300 regional jet captains ahead of every Airbus captain? That would be the same as if in the US Airways SLI had placed 300 Cactus pilots ahead of the A330 pilots, or Delta narrowbody captains ahead of Northwest 747 captains.

Finally a non-F9 guy who is also fallling for BB's line.

You are so full of crap. Those 300 "RJ" Capts are senior to most of F9 guys anyhow. So, just because they fly RJs you are better than them?

Dumba$$!

06-14-2011 | 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by flyguy23

We'll see how you feel when Bedford parts out his crumbling empire and some one says to you "we bought you, your contract is worthless", and suppose your new masters decide everyone flying a 50 seater will be furloughed out of seniority.
Then, again, it could be the best thing that ever happened to you 'cause you couldn't work for any worse low lifes than you do now.