The SWA offer was wrong, even more so than the TWA deal (which was so wrong that they passed a law to make sure it didn't happen again). Now that Air Tran will get an equitable merger, I'm even more certain that we did the right thing.

 

Mulva Bro, happy to see you back hope you had a great vacation!

 

Same thing over again!

 

Oh puh-leeze!!!! this is where the FAPA attitude comes from against RAH. those lowly RAH pilots. let me ask you this, if you were driving home and saw a guy in a pilot uniform with a flat tire would you not pull over to help? or would you need to interview him thru a slightly rolled down window before you opened the door and stepped out? We are all pilots and are all in this crappy industry together. I think you even came from RAH if you are who i think you are which makes it eaxtra BS-ey.... please!

 

CptMrgn,

How would they "fit in at F9", you say? I'm guessing they'd be slightly more experienced than a regional guy, but not quite enough on their resume to get hired by a real airline, right? That's why they're applying to F9 in the first place?

Get over yourself with the "greater than thou" attitude, especially coming from F9, which is nothing more than a "stepping stone, regional-esque" airline in the first place. Much like Midwest "was", and no longer "is".

GJ

 

Just a small point of fact, as far as Midwest being a stepping stone, in the 20 years I was there, there were less than a dozen that left for another carrier.

 

Sounds to me like they've had an employee turnover of 100%?

 

Pretty crappy thing to say to a guy that invested his career into an airline that was, for most, a retirement airline. Especially since those jobs were outsourced to the RAH pilots. Frontier, post 9-11, was also a "retirement airline" and the attrition rate was almost nonexistent until they were bought by Republic. So call it a stepping stone if you like, but most F9 pilots targeted this airline and planned to never move on until now.

 

My point exactly, and you, along with Doug are illustrating it extremely well.

First of all, the Republic pilots that "supposedly flew your outsourced" work did it because of the DECISIONS THEIR MANAGEMENT made, not because they willingly wanted to put other pilots out of work!! I just don't understand why you and the other F9 pilots on here aren't grasping that concept? They were following their contract, I'm sure not because they liked what was happening, but BECAUSE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO BY LAW!!

I'm actually glad that some of you old Midwest guys have come out of the woodwork to respond. (I wasn't flame-bating, just calling some of this nonsense out.) [Hoping that "Dirty Rat" chimes in as well.]

How about looking back to your own contract? Your own management? Or even the unity your in-house union and MEC had when they signed the contract you worked under, allowing a MACK truck to drive through your Section 1.

I feel for you, your pilot group, and the F9 guys as well, but this blaming other pilot groups (i.e. RAH) when we should be unifying our collective anger towards management needs to end. Otherwise this anger will continue to metastasize to other labor groups, organizations and the once esteemed career of an airline pilot is lost for good.

Fly safe,

GJ

 

You're missing the point. Of course I would pull over and help him, but that's not the kind of thing I'm talking about. There are good pilots at RAH that are very customer service oriented and have a good head on their shoulders. There are those that couldn't care less if the customer was hot cold, whatever, as long as they're getting what they want. Those are the people that F9 doesn't need. Unfortunately, you can't pick and choose the ones you want working for you when you're basing it on seniority alone. This is what I'm talking about. If you scroll up and read the posts I've written within this thread, you'll see that it's not about the plane you fly. It's about the kind of person you are, and again, there is no guarantee what kind of person you're going to get when you deal with seniority alone. I hope I've cleared that up for you.