Rat,

Welcome back! Your Zen-like approach to seeking ones infinite inner self will be good reading again.

 

Bucking Bar,
A rational post.
I am all in favor of a national list...doubt it will happen as the "haves"(and being a have is historically temporary) will not support it.
Thanks for your insights.

 

Bucking Bar,

Also, thank you for reminding anyone who wishes to reflect on it that the dismantling of Midwest was begun by TPG/Northwest. For almost a quarter of a century Northwest had spent a great deal of energy and capital towards putting Midwest out of business. How much simpler and cheaper it was to simply buy them!
For some reason the instigators of all this have been forgotten and RAH has gotten all the blame.
Republic management can be accused of being opportunistic, but it was Northwest (with TPG as their front) who were the ones who parted out YX. ( the famous line from the movie Wallstreet..."because it's wreckable"). As you noted, the NWA....then Delta... unions idly watched as though a disinterested observer. Very similar to the just months earlier scenerio with Midwest and Skyway.
As long as we (pilots) act as though our individual interests are somehow seperate from our collective interests we will continue to see our work pay,benefits etc erode. Management would be foolish not to capitalize (pun intended) on our willingness to sacrifice the well being of the whole for an individual short term gain.

 

Is this weird analogy supposed to mean that RAH was technologically superior to Midwest?

The Midwest pilots could have accepted the RAH pay scale and work rules and flown the 170s that were replacing the 717s. The training department was actually spooling up to do this. Several check airman finished type training.

On that note, we can agree. Look at what he is doing to the Frontier gate agents? Another glaring example of how something can be completely legal and WRONG at the same time. No one is saying what the RAH pilots did was illegal but it would certainly be refreshing if they at least acknowledged it was wrong.

 

Doug..>I dont think one person at RAh was happy about the midwest situation. I think we would all agree it was wrong and wish that it had happened differently. We never would wish someone else out of a job. Unfortunately, it was legal, and it was most definitely the wrong thing to do.

 

The reason F9 pilots don't want RAH pilots to come over based on seniority number alone, is that there is no screening of the pilots to see if they fit in at F9. F9 employees love their airline (obviously) and are afraid to dilute the waters. If you interview and recieve the stamp of approval, then it doesn't matter if you are a lowly regional puke or a freight dog. It's not about who is flying what, it's about who is a good fit for F9.

 

Dirty Rat: How do you feel about the fact that there are Midwest pilots hired at F9 preferentially? Just curious about your opinion. Did you interview?

 

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Might as well give up on this thread for a few days.

CapMrgn, A spot on post. Unfortunately, except for those 2 dreadful words, it'll all be seen by the APC RAHbro crowd as gibberish . Thanks for stopping by for a visit in my land of arrogance, conceit and overbearing pride! It's actually not such a bad place.

 

Frontier Pilots:

Just out of curiosity, looking back, if you could revote, would you take the staple and be added to SWA or go with the current state of affairs and do the RAH thing again? I'm just curious. And no, I'm not a SWA employee.

 

Haha, I used that term lovingly, and not as a demeaning term. I was a regional puke just like most everybody at any Major/LLC//Legacy. I "owned" it and tried to enjoy it knowing full well that I didn't want to make a career of it.